Suicide....why do some do it ??
 

Ok, may not be the best place to ask this but i'm perplexed as fuck.

A good buddy of mine who used to actually live in my house as a kid committed suicide on x-mas eve. The most fucked up thing about it is.....

He never threatened suicide,
had a loving family (wife & 3 daughters)
a decent job (his wife has a great job)
awsome house
always a fun loving guy who adored his kids

While i haven't seen him in a few years, my bro remained close to him. They went out a bunch of times fishing this past year and we (all 3 of us) had made plans to go to my pops place in Florida and spend a week fishing. I spoke with him over the phone just last week and he was estatic to hear from me and was all hyped up to go fishing with my brother and pops. We used to break each others balls over who was a better fisherman and used to tease the guy who caught the least amount of shit. My family kinda adopted him when he was around 12 because his family was so fucked up. My mom and brother are besides themselves over this and my brother went to his house today to spend time with his wife. Problem was, there were no warning signs. Everything in his life was going rather smooth and he was in the middle of painting some room in his house (my bro saw the trim taped up) His gifts are still in the corner with "To daddy" on them and i spoke to another friend today who is also as perplexed as to why. He told me that the guy recently went partners on a piece of hunting land this past week. Why would someone who seems to have all his shit in order just end it all on the worse day possible??

I'm not getting into any further details as to how he did it but i'm sitting here scratching my head and searching for answers. This is bugging my out. Now i have to see him in a box on Wed.......and for what ??

RIP

Perhaps he just thought back to his childhood for a little bit and didn't look to the future, temporarily throwing him into a deep depression? I don't know, but thats a very sad story. annoy:

Severe mental disorders that do not show.

http://suez-cide.tripod.com/cobain.html

People get disorders, people feel they lose meaning, people fade away. [/emo]

RIP to your buddy. Some people don't deserve to die.

RIP.

Perhaps it is as Jin-Roh and Blitz said, perhaps he had some childhood mental traumas, and bottled up all of his feelings on the inside, until one day he just snapped.

Thanks for that link. While it doesn't help, it kinda explains things. Perhaps my buddy was fearful. Fearful he wouldn't be able to raise his children the way he wanted to...i dunno. Whatever, he was fearful of something.

You always hear well-off people saying being rich or famous is hell.

The jist is, you've got the stuff you just don't know how to use it.

I'm sorry about your pal Arkan. It really sucks to not know why people do the things they do.

I knew a few people who commited suicide. They never threated it ether.

Sorry to hear about it, My Grandpa died last week , So I see him in a box wensday too.

Hey, good news guys! Im killing myself pretty soon.

i never understood why people would do such a horrible thing. people do this because of something they think about themselves, but they dont realize that even if killing themself will fix whatever problem it is they have, it will make things 1000 times worse for any of their family. i mean if i loved a girl and we broke up and killed myself over it cuz becasuae of that, i would be hurting so many more people (parents, sister, friends, etc.). so i really dont see the point of it all, and im sure most of you guys dont either...

RIP

[quote="Doctor Duffy":3fba0]Hey, good news guys! Im killing myself pretty soon.[/quote:3fba0]

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Now gtfo out of this thread.

Arkan best to ya, some things are deeper than they seem

Ive had a few friends that commited suicide. 2 of them had great lives ahead of them. They had just gotten accepted into college and had moved on campus. A day they were found dead in their dorms. Hung themselves. It is still a mystery. One other friend joined a gang and a year later wanted out. The only way out was to take a revolver and fill all but 1 chamber, spin and pull the trigger.

Sometimes people do it for unknown reasons, or something they had been hiding. Like when you called your friend he seemed really excited. Probably in a deep depression that he didnt even know about.

RIP to your friend.

Aw, alright, I'll be polite....

R.I.P. to the the friend. That's all I really have to say truthfully.... besides the kids you find in middle-school calling themselves "suicidal" are just pure fags, looking for attention..

...thats not like dishonoring your friend in any way, though. He obviously wasnt 12 years old.

[quote="Doctor Duffy":f3430]Aw, alright, I'll be polite....

R.I.P. to the the friend. That's all I really have to say truthfully.... besides the kids you find in middle-school calling themselves "suicidal" are just pure fags, looking for attention..

...thats not like dishonoring your friend in any way, though. He obviously wasnt 12 years old.[/quote:f3430] ban:

It could have been many things. Was he under any influences? Sometimes drugs dont show up, ya never know. He could have just found something out about his childhood, or something that is going to happen, He could have found out his wife was cheating on him, could be one of a million things. Sometimes people just end it.
Sorry to hear about his death. Hope his family is alright after this.

*Shrug*

I don't know and I can guarantee you no one here knows either.

RIP

RIP

thats horirble, especially this time of year...have the police rulled out all other possibilities?

Im really sorry to hear that.

RIP

You know... I just thought...

Maybe it was a murder-cover-up!

youre such a douche bag duffy annoy:

sorry to hear bout your friend, Arkan. maybe he had alot on his mind, some kind of pressure. dont beat yourself up over it, i know you care about his family and all, but dont think about there could have been something you could have done. ive been through some rough shit, but ive never been faced with anything that would make me really think about taking my own life, it must have been too rough for him to confide to anyone. in the meantime, just be there for his family, cause they are prolly hurting way more than you and your bro. i dont think anyone can really find out the real answers as to why someone who seemed to have everything going for him would do something like that. just take it day by day and see what happens. take care, man. sorry for your lost. i cant imagine what you and his family are feeling right now. good luck with this.

RIP, mang. Its a sad thing.

Is it for sure an intentional suicide, as opposed to an accident? Did he leave a letter?

And Duffy, die in a ditch. You should be banned for that kind of shit annoy:

Really sorry to hear about that mate.

My friends brother committed suicide earlier this year. His reason was that he was gay, he was going to tell his best friends the next day after telling his parents the week before.

His dad found him after hanging himself. The worst part is trying to imagine him as a father pulling your son down from a rope. Very sickening.

You'll also find most people that threaten suicide, wont do it. I think its something like 90% of all suicidesdidnt threaten to do it.

maybe he felt something was very wrong in his life, no matter what great things there were, something was wrong or missing and perhaps he felt he couldn't deal with it or wasn't stronge enough to.

or maybe he was depressed. lots of people who have depression know just how to mask their condition to others. if he was sick emotionally and/or mentally, and everyone around him thought he was happy and normal, he obviously never recieved help. which is bad of course cuz the condition builds up over time and gets worse.

My sympathies to you and his family. Unfortunately, sometimes the guys who have it all together and seem to have everything to live for, feel the most pressure to keep things going perfectly. I think this is especially true of guys with children. Sometimes what might seem nothing more than a blip in the radar to most, can seem like a failure to someone who is a perfectionist. Maybe he made a bad investment or his job was in jeopardy. Who knows? Anyway, its unfortunate that he didn't reach out for help. Sounds like he had a ready-made support system. Perhaps he had too much pride. Anyway, its just a tragedy for all involved. Hope everyone pulls through this as well as could be expected.

Maybe it was a bit like american beauty, everything looks happy and perfect on the putside, but its really just a show...

deep childhood traumas do tend to come out in the peak of life, and usually around the worst time of year. mainlybecuase it is seen as a good time but something happends that makes it so unbareable they feel they cant take it. Ive never had anyone close commit suicide, but i do know ppl who have, saw one when i was in paris a couple of years ago and have lost friends and many relatives to death, mostly cancers and vehicle acidents. however as much of a douche that duffy is, maybe there was foul play but RIP to your friend and the best wishes to his family and friends

:( Terrible news Arkan.

Well...I have no advice for why he did it as I haven't really come in contact with many suicides overe here...but I hope everyone pulls through this.

Well, to answer a question or two, it wasn't a homicide. My buddy killed himself in front of his wife and of course the police treated it as a homicide as they should but it's been ruled a suicide. Autopsy ruled out drugs/alcohol so this was just a plain old suicide.

Whats suprising to all is why. No one really knows, including his own wife. I guess we'll never know for certain. All that is known is he left the house early that morning and when he returned, he hugged each of his children, told them daddy loves you very much and don't ever forget that, then did the deed away from them.

I'll be going to the wake tomorrow. Just sucks knowing his family will suffer from this.

Oh, and Duffy, can you stoop any lower? I'd probably entertain the idea that you're trying to be funny but i came to the conclusion that you're just a kid who's mildly retarded. I feel sorry for your parents.

Rofl, actually, I was being kinda serious at the time.

[quote="Doctor Duffy":fb869]Rofl, actually, I was being kinda serious at the time.[/quote:fb869]
just ban him

Ask TonyDungee's son ... that was so sad ... he lived by USF, the school I'm attending. I met the guy several times during press meetings ... said a quick few words, he was nice and everything.

Thats a shame Arkan, it reminded me of our Milkman a few years back, he'd always seemed so friendly and nice, which he was and then all of a sudden we found one day he'd hung himself.....totally out of the blue...its always whats on the inside that matters, its the root of most things in my opinion.

Hope everything goes ok for you and of course his family in the long run.


And I don't see how Duffy should be allowed to get away with this kind of thing, just ban him outright and watch him crawl back under a new screename, is it really that tough a decision?

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And I don't see how Duffy should be allowed to get away with this kind of thing, just ban him outright and watch him crawl back under a new screename, is it really that tough a decision?[/quote:f8de6] imwithstupid:

tragic story. I feel really horrible for his family.

Re: Suicide....why do some do it ??
 

Well, first and foremost, RIP to your friend. The why is a bit harder. I suppose there are a lot of reasons. As some said, possibly a non-evident mental disorder.

It could also be, that his family/parents weren't too great to him as he was growing up, and he got freaked out when he thought to himself, what if I ever do something like that to my kids? I know some people are just overstressed, and want to just do something, anything about it. They put on a happy face for family and friends, but when they leave, the stress/worry all comes back.

And possibly, he is just afraid of, well life....With all the shit going on/happening in the world, to some people, suicide might feel like a welcome option. I'm sorry I am not of any more help, and I wish you, your family, and his family luck with coping with such a loss. I am truly sorry.

My mom regrets having kids.... She says the world is a shitty place for them, and advises me on a regular basis not to have any.

^^Flame bait, I know what your going to say, so dont bother oOo:

eek: ok, so you knew i was gonna say that i know the world is a shitty place
but as long as people continue to work towards making it better it will improve? At least I hope so.

nag:

No, not that part. The regret having kids part and the dont have kids part.

don't worry, I won't say that. I'm too nice. Someone else will tho. happy:

oOo:

Trunks, i'm thinking along those same lines.

Anyhow, pretty shitty day with the wake. Around 400 people showed up and it was very emotional. To see his 2 oldest daughters (8 and 5) crying kinda tugged at my heart. Thank goodness it was a closed casket. My brother wrote a 2 page letter that he wanted to read but knew he'd have trouble so he asked for me to read it. It was the hardest speech i had to do but suprisingly, i got through it ok. It's just been a shitty day really. My heart goes out to his family.


RIP Steve, you will be missed my friend.