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Nyck 12-28-2005 05:49 PM

Don't corrupt my son!
 
so one of my brothers friends spent the night at his house the other night and they watched Saving Private Ryan. Both of them are 13. So the kid goes home today and tells his dad that he watched SPR. His dad then calls my dad bitching him out saying

"Are you aware that my son watched SPR @ your house yesterday?"
My dad "Yes"
"are you aware that movie is rated R"
"Yes"
"Well I dont allow my son to watch those type of movies, do you think you have the right to decide what my son can watch etc..."

My dad explains how it is a fairly historically accurate account of what happened during WWII and that he was unaware and not told by either parent that this kid had a "restriction" of what he could watch. Furthermore the Kid never once mentioned "I cant watch R rated movies"(This past summer I actually asked him if he couldnt watch R rated movies when I watched 28 days later over there. he said they dont care) Also as soon as he got to my bros house he asked to watch From Dusk Till Dawn(mutilation, blood, gore and nudity plz)

Whats even better is the father lets his son hunt, kill animals etc, so he should have some respect for weapons.

He also bought this kid for his 13th birthday(2-3 weeks ago) Call of Duty 2 for the PC happy:

wtf oOo:

My dad is literally LOLing at this guy

Doctor Duffy 12-28-2005 05:52 PM

Both you and your father are dispicable. annoy:

12-28-2005 05:53 PM

My parents never cared what kinda movies I watched.

Judas 12-28-2005 05:53 PM

some people see it fit to raise their kids how they want ... i dont see a bad thing in trying to preserve innocences for as long as you can. honestly i dont know if i would want my 13 yr old kid watching spr. well, 13 might be pushing it ... again, it all depends on how you want to raise your kid. if you want him to be talking like a sailor at 13 and thinking about bodies missing limbs ... sure why the fuk not. its not like we dont already have enough child murderers/criminals already.

KTOG 12-28-2005 05:55 PM

I didn't know what sex was until my penis was in a vagina.

Doctor Duffy 12-28-2005 06:02 PM

To be serious, though, my dads kinda like that - let's me watch even the nastiest of R movies out there, yet wont let me lay a hand on M-rated games. Not that I really care, anymore.

12-28-2005 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
some people see it fit to raise their kids how they want ... i dont see a bad thing in trying to preserve innocences for as long as you can. honestly i dont know if i would want my 13 yr old kid watching spr. well, 13 might be pushing it ... again, it all depends on how you want to raise your kid. if you want him to be talking like a sailor at 13 and thinking about bodies missing limbs ... sure why the fuk not. its not like we dont already have enough child murderers/criminals already.

yeah because I watched SPR when I was a lad, I am now really warped in the head. stupid:

Judas 12-28-2005 06:17 PM

^^ to each his own. truthfully, i would like to see more parents like this who actually take an active role in whats going on with their kid. imo, there would be fewer dipshits who have no respcect for anyone or anything running around.

i cringe at the thought of the "britney spears" generation in charge of the world ill be living in as a old man, who, it seems, havent learned a god damn thing about kindness, respect, or responsibility. So many fuking unguided kids running around these days its fuking scarey.

: o yeah, its kind of funny to see a post like this, then when a kid shoots up a school everyones asking "where were the parents". well, here is one such parent who seems to be doing exactly that and is being critisized for it ... you might wanna rethink how you feel about them.

Jin-Roh 12-28-2005 06:42 PM

Corporal punishment is key.

Coleman 12-28-2005 06:43 PM

you can't get mad at the dad. If anything, the dad should be mad at the son for not speaking up about what he is allowed to watch. It's the kid's fault, not the West family.

Nyck 12-28-2005 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
^^ to each his own. truthfully, i would like to see more parents like this who actually take an active role in whats going on with their kid. imo, there would be fewer dipshits who have no respcect for anyone or anything running around.

i cringe at the thought of the "britney spears" generation in charge of the world ill be living in as a old man, who, it seems, havent learned a god damn thing about kindness, respect, or responsibility. So many fuking unguided kids running around these days its fuking scarey.

: o yeah, its kind of funny to see a post like this, then when a kid shoots up a school everyones asking "where were the parents". well, here is one such parent who seems to be doing exactly that and is being critisized for it ... you might wanna rethink how you feel about them.

no what I critisize him for is if hes so active into controling his kid, why would he not make that evidently apparent when he came over. He has visited many times, they play baseball together and my mom would see his mom every other day. never once has this man told either my mother or father. I do NOT allow my son to watch R rated movies, etc.

I respect a persons decsion on how to raise their child and so would my father. As funny as my dad can be and the off the wall shit he will say he is a good man(and an ordained minister for their church), but don't call trying to call out someone else, without any notice of restrictions. My brother knows what he can and can not do and so does this kid, yet he says nothing about it to anyone.

My dad knows where my brother is at all times. He doesnt even let him out of the house without knowing where he is going. he isnt allowed to ride his bike more than one house down either way on the road unless he is given permission.

You should never expect things to happen, you should lay them out beforehand

Madmartagen 12-28-2005 07:40 PM

kick that asshole in the crotch.

Bean 2 12-28-2005 08:31 PM

You should have told the dad that his kid knew more about both male and female genitalia than a porn star, which is another subject he was quite familiar with. Im sure the dad would have gotten a kick outta that.

c312 12-29-2005 12:13 AM

It's his kid, therefore, its his decision. He could have told your dad in advance, but think how that would sound if you told somebody that you don't want your kid to watch R movies at this friend's house. That's assuming that the other parent lets their kid watch them and that it is bad parenting, that would be very awkward for the other kids' parents when you think about it.

Nowadays, I would never show a kid a film he wasn't old enough to see unless his parent said it was okay, it's just common courtesy.

That being said, I think the kid's dad should get over it, SPR is a good exception to make, it's not like it's R cause of titties and zombies and stuff like that, it's accurate and it's historical but still, it's the dad's call.

Eight Ace 12-29-2005 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KTOG
I didn't know what sex was until my penis was in a vagina.

..now that's a steep, rock-hard learning-curve, gg mang cool:

Coleman 12-29-2005 12:25 AM

[quote="Eight Ace":885d4]
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Originally Posted by KTOG
I didn't know what sex was until my penis was in a vagina.

..now that's a steep, rock-hard learning-curve, gg mang cool:[/quote:885d4]intuitive learning right there!

Eight Ace 12-29-2005 12:29 AM

[quote=Coleman]
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Originally Posted by "Eight Ace":22d77
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Originally Posted by KTOG
I didn't know what sex was until my penis was in a vagina.

..now that's a steep, rock-hard learning-curve, gg mang cool:

intuitive learning right there![/quote:22d77]
I just hope he backed-up the data "on the other drive" after a beer/cig break. beer:

Coleman 12-29-2005 12:30 AM

haha, maybe he brought along his jump drive happy:

TonyMontana 12-29-2005 12:44 AM

heh i don't mind strict parents. hell, if i swear in front of my parents, i would still get a backhand in the face. i haven't sworn in my house to this date.

strict parents own, and im glad my parents raised me the way i did

12-29-2005 12:51 AM

My parents are pretty strict when it comes to respect and cleanlyness. My room must be neater than a marines, and i cannot backtalk to parents, or risk a backhand.

Eight Ace 12-29-2005 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Acideyez
My parents are pretty strict when it comes to respect and cleanlyness. My room must be neater than a marines, and i cannot backtalk to parents, or risk a backhand.

yeh but any probs porking a bitch in ur b/r..?

CoMaToSe 12-29-2005 01:17 AM

The one at fault here is the kid, obviously. He knew he wasnt allowed to watch the R rated movie, didnt say anything to your bro or dad about that, and then like a true dumass told his dad about it oOo:

Mr_Gl@ss 12-29-2005 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
The one at fault here is the kid, obviously. He knew he wasnt allowed to watch the R rated movie, didnt say anything to your bro or dad about that, and then like a true dumass told his dad about it oOo:


Wow... that actually made sense. Oddly enough ditto with ^

I respect parents who "parent" their kids and even applaud "angry" dad for his decisions but in this case the kid knew what he was a doing by going around his wishes.

Trunks 12-29-2005 10:26 AM

I'm not a father, so really I dont have much right to critisize, but I will do it anyway. I, personally, don't see the point in "babying" your kid. There are a lot of worse things in real life then watching an "R" movie, or playing an "M" game etc. If and when I ever have a kid, I would not want to treat him/her as a little kid. Instead, I'd want to treat him/her as an equal. I would want him/her to know that millions of people died fighting in WW2, and I would want him/her to realize the brutality with which humans can treat each other. And if that means showing the kid SPR, or the Pianist, etc, then I would do that.

My point being, in my opinion, parents need to be less protective of their kids, and treat them as they would have liked to be treated at that age. Kids need to know the reality of whats going on around the world. I think a lot of the problems with today's youth arose as a result of being "babied."

Arkan 12-29-2005 12:19 PM

Gotta side with the parent on this one. No one should tell anyone how to raise their own kids. As long as you're under my roof, you abide by my rules, period.

I'll also respect other parents when it comes to "rules" but it would be nice to know beforehand. You gotta use common sense, i don't think i would play that DVD for them.....and i definately wouldn't let them come to this site !!

Poseidon 12-29-2005 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunks

My point being, in my opinion, parents need to be less protective of their kids, and treat them as they would have liked to be treated at that age. Kids need to know the reality of whats going on around the world. I think a lot of the problems with today's youth arose as a result of being "babied."

I completely disagree with this. I wouldlnt call it babied. Its bringing your kid up right. Obviously the parent and nycks parents has different opinions as to why the film was shown. But I was "babied" as a kid and hated it at the time, but it kept me out of trouble, having strict parents made me the polite, kind person I am today, and not like the other 10/20% of the population that are complete dicks.

Yes I agree with showing him the film, but I also side with his parents in trying to protect his kid.

CoMaToSe 12-29-2005 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Poseidon
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Originally Posted by Trunks

My point being, in my opinion, parents need to be less protective of their kids, and treat them as they would have liked to be treated at that age. Kids need to know the reality of whats going on around the world. I think a lot of the problems with today's youth arose as a result of being "babied."

I completely disagree with this. I wouldlnt call it babied. Its bringing your kid up right. Obviously the parent and nycks parents has different opinions as to why the film was shown. But I was "babied" as a kid and hated it at the time, but it kept me out of trouble, having strict parents made me the polite, kind person I am today, and not like the other 10/20% of the population that are complete dicks.

Yes I agree with showing him the film, but I also side with his parents in trying to protect his kid.

thats not teh issue, mang. The issue is porn!!! dance:

Nyck 12-29-2005 01:47 PM

I dont agree or disagree with the issue at all. Everyone has their ideal for raising children. But you need to let someone know beforehand

if this kid was allergic to peanuts, you would say my son is not allowed peanuts.

If you are worried about an R rated movie, they should have spoken up prior.

end of story.

Trunks 12-29-2005 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkan
and i definately wouldn't let them come to this site !!

happy:


[quote:b8b8b]I completely disagree with this. I wouldlnt call it babied. Its bringing your kid up right. Obviously the parent and nycks parents has different opinions as to why the film was shown. But I was "babied" as a kid and hated it at the time, but it kept me out of trouble, having strict parents made me the polite, kind person I am today, and not like the other 10/20% of the population that are complete dicks.

Yes I agree with showing him the film, but I also side with his parents in trying to protect his kid.[/quote:b8b8b] I agree that parents need to instill certain moral and ethical values in children. As to how they do it, that is up to the parent. The only problem I have is with, trying to protect the kid, in this case. If it were a movie like say Devil's Rejects, then yea I could definetly see where you are coming from. But when its a fairly accurate portrayal of american forces in combat just after D-Day....

I think the reason why so many kids nowadays are so immature, is because their parents "baby" them. Surely you know what I mean. Even when speaking to certain young "adults" I find their views extremely narrow and immature. I take more joy in talking to my bro then i do with 80% or so of the people I come across that are around my age. Kids need to SEE what happened in concentration camps, what happened during ww2, what happened during 9/11, etc. Kids need to see that this is THEIR reality. This is the world in which they are growing up in.

However, these are just my views, as I said, I am not a father, so I really have no right ro critisize. Nyck is completely right in his above statement.

TonyMontana 12-29-2005 07:42 PM

Explain to me what is the benefit of a 12 year old kid looking at disturbingly graphic videos? Fuck mang, when i was 12 all i cared about is ninja turtles and nintendo games. I turned out just fine.

Trunks 12-29-2005 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana
Explain to me what is the benefit of a 12 year old kid looking at disturbingly graphic videos? Fuck mang, when i was 12 all i cared about is ninja turtles and nintendo games. I turned out just fine.

I don't really see it as that. I see it as life.(In the case of SPR) It's like not letting a kid see a movie for swearing. The next day he will take a walk outside in the real world, and every other person will be swearing. Its life. I just don't see the point in protecting a kid from life....

Whatada 12-29-2005 08:36 PM

Yeah, but you don't exactly see Sgt. Horvath spilling his guts out over the sidewalk in everyday life, do you? eek:

Trunks 12-29-2005 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatada
Yeah, but you don't exactly see Sgt. Horvath spilling his guts out over the sidewalk in everyday life, do you? eek:

Yes, but just because you don't see it happening, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. A kid needs to be aware that things like this do happen, every single day. La la land is all fine and grand, but what if something horrible happens? What if, god forbid, ww3 breaks out? What good does la la land do to the kid then?

Whatada 12-29-2005 09:58 PM

Little Johnny could either grow up to be a hardened war veteran or a horrible axe murderer. That might sound ignorant, but that's exactly what it is. People are fucking retarded. They see this shit and go "Hot damn, I wanna gut people alive, that'd be awesome." This ties in with the Gun Law discussion we had a while back. Because some people decide to be ignorant and do exactly what they see in movies or games, everyone else is cracked down upon as well.

Kids should be monitered, yes, but adults need to come to terms with whether or not little Johnny is an imbocile who would rape, pillage, and eat throbbing human flesh just because he saw the flick "Viking Gods of Valhalla".

CoMaToSe 12-30-2005 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Whatada
Yeah, but you don't exactly see Sgt. Horvath spilling his guts out over the sidewalk in everyday life, do you? eek:

Yea, but then again we didnt see that in SPR either

CoMaToSe 12-30-2005 06:58 AM

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Whatada 12-30-2005 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
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Originally Posted by Whatada
Yeah, but you don't exactly see Sgt. Horvath spilling his guts out over the sidewalk in everyday life, do you? eek:

Yea, but then again we didnt see that in SPR either

Don't be a specific asshole, you asshole. spank:

Poseidon 12-30-2005 11:26 AM

Its not all just about SPR. Its about the whole picture of their son watching a R/15 rated film. It is an R/15 for a damn reason. Because of the gore and killing real humans. having a kid watch these types of movies, wont neccessarily make them watch the point of the movie. Infact most minors will become upset, offended, disturbed by what they see. Most kids are not old enough to see the whole picture about what point a movie is trying to portray, they'll just see the killings/blood/guts etc. Its upto the CHILDS PARENTS to decide when they want their kid to watch that sort of gore.

Nyck 12-30-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Poseidon
Its upto the CHILDS PARENTS to decide when they want their kid to watch that sort of gore.

Its also up to the parents to make someone who will be in care of their child to know these things.

My issue in it all is dont call up screaming about things, if you havent explained or told someone about it.

I'm pretty sure my parents would have put on Blues Clues or something else if they knew the kid was not allowed to watch r rated movies.

Its not like my dad strapped this kid to a chair and said YOU'RE WATCHING THIS.

c312 12-30-2005 03:45 PM

Like I said before, it could have been really awkward for the other dad to tell your dad not to let him watch R movies. Parents should just make sure, the kids can't be trusted to tell the adults when they are being allowed something they aren't usually allowed to do, of course they aren't gonna say anything. It's better to be safe then sorry.


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