We found Padilla's al Qaeda application, U.S. says
 

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[quote:a2db5]Prosecutors said the U.S. government discovered alleged terrorist José Padilla's written application to join al Qaeda.
BY JAY WEAVER
jweaver@MiamiHerald.com

After the U.S. military invaded Afghanistan to oust its Taliban rulers, authorities found a locker full of applications to join al Qaeda's holy war overseas.

Among the alleged applicants: José Padilla, the former ''enemy combatant'' who once lived in Broward County.

A prosecutor produced the alleged document for the first time Thursday in Miami federal court, where Padilla pleaded not guilty to conspiracy charges that he was a recruit for a North American terrorist cell with South Florida links that aided Islamic jihad abroad.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Barry Garber denied bond for Padilla, who had been held in military detention for about four years before his transfer to Miami to face a criminal indictment.

''It was recovered by U.S. personnel in late 2001 after the United States began bombing Afghanistan,'' Justice Department lawyer Stephanie Pell said, referring to Padilla's alleged al Qaeda application.

She added it was found among 80 to 100 other mujahadeen (holy warrior) applications found in the country, which harbored al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden before he masterminded the Sept. 11, 2001, U.S. terrorist attacks.

''Several links in this case prove this is his document,'' Pell said after submitting it at Padilla's bond hearing.

Pell said Padilla's July 24, 2000, application was authenticated by a ''cooperating government witness'' convicted in an unrelated case who had once filled out the same Arabic ''mujahadeen data form.'' She said Padilla's date of birth, Oct. 18, 1970, was on his application along with his adopted Muslim name, Abu Abdullah Al Mujahir.

She said his co-conspirators and others called him ''The Puerto Rican,'' a reference to the American-born Padilla's Hispanic heritage.

Padilla's attorney, Michael Caruso, questioned the authenticity of Padilla's alleged mujahadeen application, saying there was ''no direct evidence'' he filled out the form.

He asked Garber three times if he could call an FBI agent to the witness stand to ask about the document. Garber rejected his requests.

Caruso went on to describe the indictment against his client as ``vacant.''

''No evidence . . . shows that José Padilla has ever engaged in any violent [terrorist] actions toward anybody in this country or anyone in any other country overseas,'' Caruso said. ``The government is trying to build a circumstantial case.''

Padilla, 35, whose mother, stepfather and stepbrother attended the court hearing, expressed no emotion during the hearing.

Prosecutors described Padilla as a danger to the community because of his criminal history in both Chicago and Broward and a flight risk because of his contacts overseas.

The magistrate judge agreed, denying his release before his September trial. If convicted, he faces life in prison.

Padilla was arrested by the FBI in Chicago in May 2002 upon his return from Pakistan after allegedly training with al Qaeda operatives in the Middle East.

But the criminal charges outlined in the indictment against Padilla are different from the ''dirty bomber'' accusation that had landed him in U.S. military detention for about four years.

The government had accused him of plotting to detonate a radioactive bomb on American soil.

Padilla's status as an enemy combatant changed last week with his transfer from a South Carolina naval brig to the Miami Federal Detention Center. The move -- sought by the Bush administration -- was made immediately following the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to allow Padilla's transfer into the criminal justice system.

In the South Florida case, prosecutors say the five-member North American cell was headed by a Palestinian computer programmer from Sunrise, Adham Amin Hassoun. Hassoun, Padilla and three others are charged with conspiring to kill people in foreign countries and provide material support for terrorists.

The case is built on thousands of government wiretaps of the alleged terrorist cell's telephone conversations from 1993 to 2001.[/quote:a2db5]


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It's amazing how these things just show up. Reminds me of how one of the 9/11 hijackers passport miraculiously flew out of his pocket, through the inferno caused by the plane smashing into the WTC, out the building, and landed unscathed for the FBI to find on the street.

lmao

Can we just change this to America fucking sucks omg they should die forum. FFS I bet the fucking government is monitoring this fucking forum due to the high volume of anti-american bullshit that flies out of everyones mouth.

america sucks

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its amazing how OBL takes credit for 9/11 but yet people think it was an inside job or the mossad had a hand in it
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all I know is that there are like 30 threads on the front page including teh sticky and 16-17 are united states hate fests.

It's what happens when your the number one player in the world.

[quote="Usama Bin Laden":2a2c4]The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders’ rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations.[/quote:2a2c4]

[url="http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/"]http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/i ... en.denial/[/url]

If your referring to the tape that was again, coincidentially "found" by US forces in Afghanistan in December 2001, well...which one of theses things are not like the other one...which of these things aren't the same?

[img]http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/binladen8.jpg[/img]

Not to mention in the confession video, the man playing bin laden is writing with his right hand, when it is know bin laden is left handed, as well, the man can be seen wearing a gold ring, which is fordibben by islamic law.

lol, i never noticed that pic before.

That pic is a frame from the so called confession by bin laden about comitting 9/11. Pretty obvious i'd say.

These are all political debates - Until the U.S is no longer the world's foremost superpower, leading the global media, and fighting a bunch of wars - You'll have to expect that people are going to be talking alot about your country, and alot of it will be heated.

I think you'll find that if you read these debates most of the arguing is in no way Anti-American, and infact, anti-american government (which is valid for non-americans to debate when it is a foreign policy issue and directly effects other countries)...

I personally became sick of people trying to turn it into an anti-american debate long ago - But I still get even more pissed off at people whining about non-americans being anti-american when in the vast majority of cases they are not. If you can't deal with your countries government's decisions being picked apart, then vote for someone who is a total isolationist and wants nothing to do with anyone outside of the U.S....And most definitely do not post in here....You'll only add to the problem, and up the amount of america-hating which is now probably at an all time low for these forums. (Thank god).

I realize this but almost every discussion is laid solely on the US. It was the EU who wanted to bring sanctions on Iran, the US supported it, but now suddenly its the US who is doing it all. You have Tony Blair who supports the US in its efforts in Iraq, Yet its all americas fault because they went to war over "lies" Unfortunantly yes there was mis information, but I still see this effort as one that should have been done 15 years ago in the 1st Gulf War. the acts that Sadaam committed then were reason enough to remove him. So if anything shame on the US for taking this long.

If anything shame on the US government for taking so long to take care of the Sadaams and Bin Laden. Clinton himself signed the order for the capture or assassination of Bin laden for his part in the 1998 bombings of the United States embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya and the bombing of the USS Cole, which he is shown to be connected with unlike being just a suspect of 9/11

IMO Bush is just taking out some long over due trash.

Did y'all know that two of the most suspicious people at Dealey Plaza were two men standing near Kennedy when the fatal shots were fired. One held an open umbrella while the other stood at the curb and waved his arm into the air. These and their subsequent actions are only known from analysis of photos and films taken that day and aroused suspicions of researchers. Both the Dallas Police and the Warren Commission ignored these two men throughout their investigations. And that's not all ... uh ... what? ... wrong conspiracy thread? ... oh ... uh ... well ... uh ... never mind. Carry on.