Russia and China Agree to send Iran to UN Referral
 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183269,00.html

"Late last year, inspectors saw the document that apparently showed how to mold highly enriched grade uranium into the core of warheads, and it figured in a November report by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei.

Initial reports said the IAEA was given the documents at that time but the diplomats said Friday that Tehran handed them over only last week in a show of cooperation meant to head off increasing international consensus on reporting Iran to the Security Council over suspicions that its nuclear activities might be a cover for developing weapons."

If they make bombs, like they maintain their planes, we don't have to worry.

If that's true. Then... wow. I guess we really shouldn't worry too much. biggrin:

and just so you dont bitch about the source

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4667970.stm

"The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) also said it has obtained an Iranian document which can only be used in the making of nuclear weapons parts."

[quote:5da63]The IAEA brief also said the agency had seen an Iranian document which can only be used in making nuclear weapons parts.

Iran said it had not asked for the document, which it received from the black market network in nuclear weapons, run by Pakistani scientist A Q Khan. [/quote:5da63]

Yeah, I registered on nukethejews.com and they keep spamming me with these documents as well. stupid:

lmao nukethejews.com

The UN should be disbanded.

it was a good idea at the time, but it fell apart.

they just need to get tougher and stop trying to make everyone happy at all costs.

In my opinion it was never a good idea. I didn't elect any of the people there, and they make world decisions for me. I'd rather have my sovereignty thank you very much.

I agree with you.

go buy yourself a deserted island and call it "The Republic of Ninety" or something.

oOo:

Why?

I think the U.N has a good platform and it should further exist...only with hard reforms on certain issues. And not allow America to own the fucking thing. sleeping:

A good platform like sustainable development/agenda 21 and population reduction? No thanks.

On Iran... it's difficult to know what to think. Regardless of whether they want to produce nuclear weapons, and regardless of what the UN says, the US will do what it wants. And if they want to attack Iran, they will.

America only defies it because it won't enforce anything.

So would anyone here support a UN army? Or how about a UN world economic system, or UN political system?

no. Maybe an army under certain circumstances.

so how can it enforce anything?

Here's the kicker. If you want the UN to enforce things, you must give it power. This results in your own country losing power. Do people want to give up Sovereignty to the UN?

If the UN is to have an actual army, then they would need a governing body to make decisions. The only real way to do this is with a one world government, which i'm not too fond of.

yeah, or they could try to motivate the members to actually carry out what they all vote on if it is violated.

I think they could get a security council coalition to enforce things that they feel need enforced.

The U.N serves as a platform for helping lay a groundbase for diplomacy on tackling key issues. It has failed in the past and will continue to unless things are changed.

And if they will, there will be another lack of WMDs, more hatred from the middle east, a probable draft and well another laughing stock of a mess.

Guessing that their will be a war before summer.

I still can't fathom what people are still debating about. Iran had nuclear weapons in the back of their head...plain and simple. Elstatec is now gonna say "they're trying to develop a nuclear facility that looks like a nuclear warhead. It's their culture to have that kind of architecture."

wtf? how is it their culture? how in hell are nuclear weapons in the back of irans head? its "plain and simple" that you have an ignorant view on this as there is no evidence let alone logic in what you just said.

i was using that as a bogus statement

the inspectors did find documents at their nuclear facility that showed how to implement it into a war head. The ones they allegedly "got" even though they didnt ask for it.

What about the Russians plan? (I remember reading somewhere that the U.S even agreed it was a decent plan) They were going to take the uranium and then enrich it themselves(in Russia), then give it back to the Iranians so they could use it for nuclear power..Why didn't the the superpowers allow them to do that? But then the EU and US talked Russia and China into joining them into referring Iran to the security council in March...

Iran rejected it
"the offer would deny his nation's right to "be in charge of its own fate" on energy matters."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/01/iran.nuclear/

Well they want to build a bomb, something I argued for I remember.

any hard evidence on that? any hard evidence that shows that iran are seeking nuclear weapons? any evidence that iran has a nuclear weapon program?

ignorant unreasonable speculation based on bullshit has caused this situation.

"Initial reports said the IAEA was given the documents at that time but the diplomats said Friday that Tehran handed them over only last week in a show of cooperation meant to head off increasing international consensus on reporting Iran to the Security Council over suspicions that its nuclear activities might be a cover for developing weapons."

how much more hard evidence do you need that Iran handing the fucking documents over to the IAEA and saying "oh these were just given to us on the black market, we didnt ask for them.

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I hardly call it "ignorant unreasonable speculation based on bullshit" Its called Iran bringing it on themselves for defying UN sanctions.

I need to pick up state of war, I own it just need to finish the book I'm currently on, in a review in the globe and mail the book insists that iran got instructions on how to build a bomb from the u.s...guessing it was either sold to them recently or during the early years during the Iranian revolution when the U.S sold weapons to Iran to free the hostages. Dunno but I should pick it up soon and find out.

'The Iranians say they neither requested the data from AQ Khan nor used it.'

"Iranians say the holocaust never happened."

of course they are gonna say that, just like any drug head that gets pulled over didnt know that drugs were in their car and they never use them

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/02/01/s ... dex.html#0

"George, 44, was arrested October 7 after he called 911 to report a burglary at his apartment. Police said officers found a small amount of cocaine next to a computer.

The singer and his lawyer say the drugs found in his apartment weren't his."

No one is ever going to admit Guilt, it needs to be proven