this is going too far
 

1 million dollar reward for those that kill the danish cartoonist
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060217/ap_ ... t_drawings

"...the lack of a moderate Muslim voice is the most troubling part..."

There is a huge lack of moderate muslim voices, their was a article in the sunday toronto star detailing this.

1 million dollar reward for those that kill the danish cartoonist

rock:

I don't agree with this action...

[quote:1a8a5] Italian consulate burned in Libya, 11 dead; 18 die in Nigeria cartoon protests.[/quote:1a8a5]

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You seemed to agree before...

Yes, I wholeheartedly agreed to this action before...find a quote to justify your cause...ffs rolleyes:

You guys worry about the small things, try to see if you can get the reward.

I meant you seemed to fidn reason to defend the muslims going apeshit over a fucking cartoon. That's all I'm saying.. I'm not trying to attack you. And the quote is right up there.

This quote?

And I was justifying their actions, seeing whats going in the muslim world and all then suddenly these cartoons arise..surely hell will be raised. I in no way agree with the clerics bounty. And I don't believe you can match my justification for anger to this bounty in any way.

Again, I wasn't tying what you said to this bounty, I was talking about this Muslim overreaction thing as a whole (excluding this; Read my posts again). And, I was talking about this quote:

Indeed, I remeber that posts. And I do believe their is a relevant point in that.

Alright. Well lets leave it at that then.

jesus you wouldnt realise cartoons have such an affect.


ever remember that director/producer dude from holland that got killed by a muslim because he was seen to offend them in a film he made.

this is getting way out of hand. The man who offered the rewards for killing the cartoonists should be hung for doing that. What sort of religion tells its people to kill when they are based on peace?
Say what you will but If my life was threatened with a hit on my head I would arm myself and shoot anyone I felt threatened by and ask questions later.
Anyone who riots violently should just be put down. Go ahead and tell me thats the wrong thing to do, but these people riot over the smallest things(not saying drawing Muhhammad is small) and they often take lives when they riot.

When people die over cartoons that were originally a protest by a children's book writer, somethings really fucking amiss.

But I forgot, making a publicly watched children's cartoon in Iran, showing young boys becoming suicide bombers is just peachy.

jesus you wouldnt realise cartoons have such an affect.

they wouldn't have with any rational people.

ever remember that director/producer dude from holland that got killed by a muslim because he was seen to offend them in a film he made.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director):28502]Theo Van Gogh[/url:28502]

[url=http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/indian-islamic-court-issues-fatwa-to-cartoonists/2006/02/21/1140284054707.html:28502]An Islamic court in India has issued a fatwa, or religious decree, condemning to death the 12 artists who drew the controversial images of the prophet Mohammed.[/url:28502]

if Iran wants to make a big deal of the Holocaust cartoons they intend printing (even though their leaders public views are much more real and offensive than any cartoon could ever be), I hope Israel goes "Munich" on them, tracks down the editors/artists and anyone involved, and give them a little taste of fatwa. Lets see how they feel about that.

Instead of offering a reward, why doesn't this cleric just buy a ticket and go to MegaCon in Orlando on February 24-26. All the cartoonists will be there. That way he can take the Dutch guys out himself ... and buy a commission, from one of the great Marvel artists of a hot chick straddling a bomb, while he's there!

I'm sure they could personalize the art for him and put "Down With America" or something on it. Maybe "I'm too chicken to blow myself up so I'm sending this young boy to do it for me" ... hmmmm... that might be too long to fit on the bomb.


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[img]http://www.colonelbrands.com/images/BomberArtBrooks.jpg[/img]

Apologies to Hughes and Brooks for reprinting their artwork...

None of this is unprecedented in the Muslim World. Anybody remember Salman Rushdie and his Satanic Verses? Iran offered a $2 million bounty on his ass. No one should be surprised.

No-one is suggesting it is, I think your confusing disgust with surprise.


Salman Rushdie was not murdered, but:

"Meanwhile, further violence occurred around the world, with the firebombing of bookstores at the University of California at Berkeley which stocked the novel, and the offices of The Riverdale Press, a weekly newspaper in The Bronx, in response to an editorial which defended the right to read the book. On February 24, five people were shot and killed by the police during a protest outside the British consulate in Bombay. Several other people died in Egypt and elsewhere. Muslim communities throughout the world held public rallies in which copies of the book were burned. In 1991, Rushdie's Japanese translator, Hitoshi Igarashi, was stabbed and killed at the university where he taught in Tsukuba, Ibaraki, north of Tokyo, and his Italian translator was beaten and stabbed in Milan. In 1993, Rushdie's Norwegian publisher William Nygaard was shot and severely injured in an attack outside his house in Oslo. Thirty-seven people died when their hotel in Sivas, Turkey was burnt down by locals protesting against Aziz Nesin, Rushdie's Turkish translator."

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie:2f454]LINK[/url:2f454]

[quote="Eight Ace":d1282]
No-one is suggesting it is, I think your confusing disgust with surprise.[/quote:d1282]
Nah. Just wanted to enlighten our younger cohorts. Most on this board were probably in diapers when the book came out.

ITs weird to think there are people on this board who were not even born when that happened.

[quote="Eight Ace":9028d] I hope Israel goes "Munich" on them, tracks down the editors/artists and anyone involved, and give them a little taste of fatwa. Lets see how they feel about that.[/quote:9028d]


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[quote=elstatec] rolleyes:[/quote:5833d]
you have something to say?

I agree with 8. People should be allowed to kill those who are out to kill them.

Don't bring Israel into the equation, thats irresponsible. Israel has already killed enough Arabs.

it's not a one sided thing, they are killing EACH OTHER. It would just be interesting to see somebody do the same thing to the muslims and see if their heads would explode at the realization of their hypocrisy or if they would just kill more of each other or other people.

I'm posting this to shed light on my previous statement. I've used this site before on this fourm.

http://www.btselem.org/english/statisti ... alties.asp

B'Tselem is ran in Israel as well. I hold it in high regard as do many other intellects who write about the Israel/Palestine conflict.

This is only from the first intifada as well...keep that in mind.

They could go for a few hundred more ... who's gona know?

[quote="mR.cLeAn":7b3e1]They could go for a few hundred more ... who's gona know?[/quote:7b3e1]

Well it goes unreported as it is..

I assume that this link is supposed to show that more Palestinians have died than Israelis? First of all, who gives a flying fuck what these statistics say. If you're going to fuck with a country like Israel, be prepared to take some casualties.

happy: "as do many other intellects" You fancy yourself an intellect? happy:

You bring up the first intifada, and yet you fail to mention that the Palestinians incited this violence despite a growing acceptance of Israel at the time by other Arab countries.

Did I say I was an intellect? Mocking people in a debate, which is common here, is immature.

Plus I don't think its necessary for me to add a comment onto the infamous line, it's just ignorance if you ask me. "First of all, who gives a flying fuck what these statistics say. If you're going to fuck with a country like Israel, be prepared to take some casualties." Talk about a gap in the statistics, a few thousand more casualties over a few hundred? No wonder Palestinian boys are willing to resist the occupation.

Go through the site and I hope it can change your mind about your views. Most of the deaths happened in the occupied territories which was taken "ILLEGALLY" by Israel in the 60's as cited by the U.N and many other important organizations.

well, you said " I hold it in high regard as do many other intellects" so yeah, that generally is taken as you calling yourself an intellect.

And with the killing deaths, are you saying that Israel has killed more Palestinians so the Palestinians deserve some free shots to catch up? The only reason that Israel has killed more is because they have a better military, they both hate each other, they both kill each other, neither side is right, you shouldn't side with either.

Alright the sentence was phrased incorrectly, shoot me. And I'm filling the gap of unheard information, seeing your reaction to it doesn't suprise me. In no way do I support suidice bombers, but when one goes to great lenghts to resist something like this occupation they find that the only way to do so is with violence. I personally wish America would stop sending military equipment to Israel. America has basically taken a Israel stance in its foreign policy. I remember reading about a vote which would give Palestine some territories from Israel (this was held in the U.N) and the only countries who voted against it were Israel, America and some small countries...I forget the names.

What do we give them? I know we SELL them stuff, but that's different. We also sell stuff to other countries, like I know we've sold some good naval stuff to Spain.

You might be surprised to know that at least since the early 90's, the US has given more financial assistance to the Palestinians than any other nation, albeit far less than is given to Israel.

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

It's all there.

And you know who is behind Israel? Who already recieves the most military/financial aid from American than any other country in the world..Colombia.

I won't deny that, but cutting it off now isn't the right thing to do. Cutting off aid = No Arab policemen in Palestine thus increasing attacks.

what military aid do we GIVE them?

Weapons such as guns among other things. It's all on that site. If you don't believe me, which you don't, just search it for yourself.