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eeves 02-19-2006 12:07 AM

arguements
 
So at my school we had a Black history assembly. Some people were arguing why we have it, or why we dont have another assemblies for other ethnic people/minorities. Do you guys have the same thing?

Milla 02-19-2006 12:08 AM

Re: arguements
 
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Originally Posted by yves
why we dont have another assemblies for other ethnic people/minorities.

Agreed

[DAS REICH] Blitz 02-19-2006 12:22 AM

Re: arguements
 
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Originally Posted by Milla
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Originally Posted by yves
why we dont have another assemblies for other ethnic people/minorities.

Agreed


Himmler 02-19-2006 12:30 AM

Re: arguements
 
[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":789b1]
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Originally Posted by Milla
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Originally Posted by yves
why we dont have another assemblies for other ethnic people/minorities.

Agreed

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Milla 02-19-2006 12:33 AM

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[quote=Himmler]
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Blitz":925fb]
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Originally Posted by Milla
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Originally Posted by yves
why we dont have another assemblies for other ethnic people/minorities.

Agreed


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Short Hand 02-19-2006 01:33 AM

Who gives a fuck.

Bullitt 02-19-2006 01:58 AM

FUCK THE MEXICANS

Himmler 02-19-2006 02:03 AM

Re: arguements
 
[quote=Milla]
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Originally Posted by Himmler
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Originally Posted by "[DAS REICH
Blitz":30409]
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Originally Posted by Milla
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Originally Posted by yves
why we dont have another assemblies for other ethnic people/minorities.

Agreed



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eeves 02-19-2006 03:23 AM

Another arguement (ironic) was that they said the "black national anthem"...and the choir came in with only black guy. Some said why not have a white assembly?

Eight Ace 02-19-2006 03:32 AM

My Ringpiece is Thor - Valhalla & the Warriors


edit. moved watch it Eight or get banned, last warning.

CoMaToSe 02-19-2006 05:47 AM

Re: arguements
 
[quote=Himmler]
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Originally Posted by "[DAS REICH
Blitz":ceda8]
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Originally Posted by Milla
Quote:

Originally Posted by yves
why we dont have another assemblies for other ethnic people/minorities.

Agreed


[/quote:ceda8]

Sgt>Stackem 02-19-2006 07:06 AM

There is nothing wrong with learning black history, to dedicate a month to it shows the need to still work on race relations. On both sides. I think we have come a long way since its inception.

Akuma 02-19-2006 12:34 PM

[quote="Short Hand":4f87e]Who gives a fuck.[/quote:4f87e]

Tripper 02-19-2006 03:14 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":c2569]There is nothing wrong with learning black history, to dedicate a month to it shows the need to still work on race relations. On both sides. I think we have come a long way since its inception.[/quote:c2569]

imwithstupid:

Also, you ask why there isn't an assembly for other minorities history? What history? Compared to african-american history, there is not many other minorities that come close in pure content. Black history in the U.S has so much important content, hell, I did two years of it and I'm not even american - I can't believe really that so many of you guys are questioning it.
Do you not understand that the historically mistreated minority had a pretty darn big hand in making your country what it is today?

There is still obviously a race relations problem in the U.S...

c312 02-19-2006 03:45 PM

It's an attempt made by white people to make black people not as angry about slavery and segregation/Jim Crow.

Pyro 02-19-2006 03:47 PM

Other minorities don't get assembelies...because they can havre them in their own country.

America basically owes it to blacks as they're part of the foundation of the country (even though it wasn't through the best means). Immigrants shouldn't get their own assemblies because well...we allow em in...but Canada and USa aren't exactly India part 2.

c312 02-19-2006 03:50 PM

immigrants have been involved in a lot of America's development, our culture is based on the mixture of immigrant cultures...sure, immigrants weren't used as slaves to support the US economy like blacks were, but you can't say that the other immigrants haven't contributed

Machette 02-19-2006 03:53 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":33fcf]There is nothing wrong with learning black history, to dedicate a month to it shows the need to still work on race relations. On both sides. I think we have come a long way since its inception.[/quote:33fcf]

Indeed. The days in the south when blacks where lynched for no reason other than their color. annoy:

Pyro 02-19-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by c312
immigrants have been involved in a lot of America's development, our culture is based on the mixture of immigrant cultures...sure, immigrants weren't used as slaves to support the US economy like blacks were, but you can't say that the other immigrants haven't contributed

The point is...thier countries would never give us the time of day, so why fucking bother?

They can move away for all I care...And I think it is wrong to not adapt the language of the country you're living in.

eeves 02-19-2006 10:41 PM

Pyro what about the asian(chinese or whatever) that helped or did the railroads? also some blacks were immigrants......and why dont they have assemblies for white people?

This country is made almost of immigrants, from the first ppl taht came here; irish, germans, russians....or even the puritans...so why say minorities/immigrants should not have assemblies? When most of us are descendants from immigrants...

stackem...did you see what i wrote about the national black anthem? someone said why call it the national "black" anthem? arent they separating themselves just by saying that?

jujumantb 02-19-2006 10:51 PM

[quote=Tripper]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":c8e5a
There is nothing wrong with learning black history, to dedicate a month to it shows the need to still work on race relations. On both sides. I think we have come a long way since its inception.

imwithstupid:

Also, you ask why there isn't an assembly for other minorities history? What history? Compared to african-american history, there is not many other minorities that come close in pure content. Black history in the U.S has so much important content, hell, I did two years of it and I'm not even american - I can't believe really that so many of you guys are questioning it.
Do you not understand that the historically mistreated minority had a pretty darn big hand in making your country what it is today?

There is still obviously a race relations problem in the U.S...[/quote:c8e5a]
Agreed 100%

Tripper 02-19-2006 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yves
Pyro what about the asian(chinese or whatever) that helped or did the railroads? also some blacks were immigrants......and why dont they have assemblies for white people?

This country is made almost of immigrants, from the first ppl taht came here; irish, germans, russians....or even the puritans...so why say minorities/immigrants should not have assemblies? When most of us are descendants from immigrants...

stackem...did you see what i wrote about the national black anthem? someone said why call it the national "black" anthem? arent they separating themselves just by saying that?

Comparing a few thousand chinese railroad workers to millions of african SLAVES is a bit... oOo: ...to say the least.

Yeah, your country is made up of immigrants. The thing that makes african-americans stand out is the fact that they came over as SLAVES not immigrants. They had no choice.

What the fuck are they teaching you in school? annoy:

Milla 02-19-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by yves
Pyro what about the asian(chinese or whatever) that helped or did the railroads? also some blacks were immigrants......and why dont they have assemblies for white people?

This country is made almost of immigrants, from the first ppl taht came here; irish, germans, russians....or even the puritans...so why say minorities/immigrants should not have assemblies? When most of us are descendants from immigrants...

stackem...did you see what i wrote about the national black anthem? someone said why call it the national "black" anthem? arent they separating themselves just by saying that?

Comparing a few thousand chinese railroad workers to millions of african SLAVES is a bit... oOo: ...to say the least.

Yeah, your country is made up of immigrants. The thing that makes african-americans stand out is the fact that they came over as SLAVES not immigrants. They had no choice.

What the fuck are they teaching you in school? annoy:

We are taught that the holocaust was a huge hoax and that black people should be paid money from our gov't because of their previous suffering

Tripper 02-19-2006 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by yves
Pyro what about the asian(chinese or whatever) that helped or did the railroads? also some blacks were immigrants......and why dont they have assemblies for white people?

This country is made almost of immigrants, from the first ppl taht came here; irish, germans, russians....or even the puritans...so why say minorities/immigrants should not have assemblies? When most of us are descendants from immigrants...

stackem...did you see what i wrote about the national black anthem? someone said why call it the national "black" anthem? arent they separating themselves just by saying that?

Comparing a few thousand chinese railroad workers to millions of african SLAVES is a bit... oOo: ...to say the least.

Yeah, your country is made up of immigrants. The thing that makes african-americans stand out is the fact that they came over as SLAVES not immigrants. They had no choice.

What the fuck are they teaching you in school? annoy:

We are taught that the holocaust was a huge hoax and that black people should be paid money from our gov't because of their previous suffering

lol reparations now would be a bit misguided and pretty damn hard to track the validity of the hand outs....LOL at the holocaust hoax....What happened to all the yankikes?

Milla 02-19-2006 11:47 PM

happy: <3 u tripper

Tripper 02-19-2006 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
happy: <3 u tripper

daddy luvs u too babe biggrin:

Sgt&gt;Stackem 02-20-2006 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yves

stackem...did you see what i wrote about the national black anthem? someone said why call it the national "black" anthem? arent they separating themselves just by saying that?



yes I did, thats why I said BOTH sides need to work on it. Right now I feel blacks are doing more harm than good as far as relations go. They are trying to divide more than come together. Alot of good has been done in past years, Id hate to see it go for nothihng

c312 02-20-2006 11:24 AM

Mainstream hiphop culture is restricting black growth.

Machette 02-20-2006 11:28 AM

Any stats on that? eek:

CoMaToSe 02-20-2006 11:43 AM

[South African] Smith... Smith... Kill the blacks, kill the blacks. Rhodesian... Kill the blacks within the five principles[/South African]

Machette 02-20-2006 11:56 AM

You really need to get banned.

CoMaToSe 02-20-2006 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
You really need to get banned.

why? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF MONTY PYTHON??

02-20-2006 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
You really need to get banned.

why? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF MONTY PYTHON??

dude its machette...i doubt he even has a TV.

CoMaToSe 02-20-2006 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acideyez
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
You really need to get banned.

why? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF MONTY PYTHON??

dude its machette...i doubt he even has a TV.

ahh of course. How silly of me, allow me to rephrase
HELLOOO MAAA CHEY TEE, HOOOOW ARRRE YOU TOOO DAAAAAY?

Machette 02-20-2006 12:17 PM

Just shut the fuck up.

c312 02-20-2006 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
Any stats on that? eek:

I haven't looked any up, but I'm sure they exist. here's some song lyrics that make a lot of sense about it:

[quote:66f6f]
Blackalicious - Shallow Days Lyrics

I just keep moving on... (moving on...)
I just keep moving on... (moving on...)

Time and time, a brother asks why
The rhyme is not laced with a gangsta touch
I said "Simply because I don't live that way
Still kickin' them rhymes rugged and rough"
"But that won't sell,
cause you gotta keep it real
so that we can feel
where you're coming from
Because these streets is ill so if you ain't
killing niggas in rhymes
your whole sound's just bubble gum"
I said "I won't contribute to genocide;
I'd rather try to cultivate the inner side
and try to evolve the frustrated ghetto mind
The devil and his army never been a friend of mine"
"But niggas don't wanna hear that shit" said the brother
Who was obviously totally misled and yelled out
"murder murder, kill, murder" instilled in the influential
(walks ?)
Of our kids' heads

Shallow days, you never wanna
Let a brother be a brother
Fully inner to the outer
Caught up in all them hollow nights
Can't escape cause everywhere that I look
People front, and it just ain't right
[repeat]

I said "Don't you know the powers that be
are using people as pawns, devouring we
until they see us all gone and outta the scene"
And as I passed the chronic, he said "look at where I be,
I tried to get a job for real,
but all the homies (hit licks?) and rob and steal
and keep fat pockets caught in a rut to catch ground
this way's in, plus who could you trust?"
I said "I'm all about protecting mine,
but neglecting minds for getting left behind.
Why don't you change your environment?"
He said "This is all I know,
plus my fam's all that I got, I can't go"
I said "You gotta make it for the fams"
"Damn," he said "I didn't make the ghetto,
The ghetto made the man"
I said "You're more than just that,"
Shook his hand, said "Damn, you gotta find a way
To break the devil's master plan, peace"

Shallow days, you never wanna
Let a brother be a brother
Fully inner to the outer
Caught up in all them hollow nights
Can't escape cause everywhere that I look
People front, and it just ain't right
[repeat]

The word "peace" is just an expression
Used to say bye when it's time to jet
And them red black and green medallions
Was all just part of the trend, I guess
Hardly ever them around brothers' necks no more
Instead of that gold (gats ?)
Inspiring gangstas and macks
Who at the young age of four
Be seeing more drama than war veterans
Instead of learning God's laws
And hip-hop is ((all the ways ?) till we enlist that ??)
To express how we be feeling about this and that
But music does reflect life
And kids look up to what you're portraying
And mimic what you act like
It's time for a new day
An era in rap, conscious styles,
Makin' them aware of the happenings
But their ears seem more steered towards
Self-annihilation so then they might laugh
And write this off, like I'm out here just
Blowing wind, maybe label us soft or unreal,
Something they just can't feel, while they yell
"murder murder murder, kill kill kill"

I just keep movin' on (moving on ...)
I just keep movin' on (moving on ...)

Shallow days / hollow nights
[repeat]

[/quote:66f6f]

Jin-Roh 02-20-2006 12:40 PM

South Africa LOL!

Machette 02-20-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c312
Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
Any stats on that? eek:

I haven't looked any up, but I'm sure they exist. here's some song lyrics that make a lot of sense about it:

[quote:e3183]
Blackalicious - Shallow Days Lyrics

I just keep moving on... (moving on...)
I just keep moving on... (moving on...)

Time and time, a brother asks why
The rhyme is not laced with a gangsta touch
I said "Simply because I don't live that way
Still kickin' them rhymes rugged and rough"
"But that won't sell,
cause you gotta keep it real
so that we can feel
where you're coming from
Because these streets is ill so if you ain't
killing n***** in rhymes
your whole sound's just bubble gum"
I said "I won't contribute to genocide;
I'd rather try to cultivate the inner side
and try to evolve the frustrated ghetto mind
The devil and his army never been a friend of mine"
"But n***** don't wanna hear that shit" said the brother
Who was obviously totally misled and yelled out
"murder murder, kill, murder" instilled in the influential
(walks ?)
Of our kids' heads

Shallow days, you never wanna
Let a brother be a brother
Fully inner to the outer
Caught up in all them hollow nights
Can't escape cause everywhere that I look
People front, and it just ain't right
[repeat]

I said "Don't you know the powers that be
are using people as pawns, devouring we
until they see us all gone and outta the scene"
And as I passed the chronic, he said "look at where I be,
I tried to get a job for real,
but all the homies (hit licks?) and rob and steal
and keep fat pockets caught in a rut to catch ground
this way's in, plus who could you trust?"
I said "I'm all about protecting mine,
but neglecting minds for getting left behind.
Why don't you change your environment?"
He said "This is all I know,
plus my fam's all that I got, I can't go"
I said "You gotta make it for the fams"
"Damn," he said "I didn't make the ghetto,
The ghetto made the man"
I said "You're more than just that,"
Shook his hand, said "Damn, you gotta find a way
To break the devil's master plan, peace"

Shallow days, you never wanna
Let a brother be a brother
Fully inner to the outer
Caught up in all them hollow nights
Can't escape cause everywhere that I look
People front, and it just ain't right
[repeat]

The word "peace" is just an expression
Used to say bye when it's time to jet
And them red black and green medallions
Was all just part of the trend, I guess
Hardly ever them around brothers' necks no more
Instead of that gold (gats ?)
Inspiring gangstas and macks
Who at the young age of four
Be seeing more drama than war veterans
Instead of learning God's laws
And hip-hop is ((all the ways ?) till we enlist that ??)
To express how we be feeling about this and that
But music does reflect life
And kids look up to what you're portraying
And mimic what you act like
It's time for a new day
An era in rap, conscious styles,
Makin' them aware of the happenings
But their ears seem more steered towards
Self-annihilation so then they might laugh
And write this off, like I'm out here just
Blowing wind, maybe label us soft or unreal,
Something they just can't feel, while they yell
"murder murder murder, kill kill kill"

I just keep movin' on (moving on ...)
I just keep movin' on (moving on ...)

Shallow days / hollow nights
[repeat]

[/quote:e3183]

I won't deny certain rap songs are a out their but rap serves a cultural purpose. Their was a documentary about Toronto black youth going to school and learning to rap, singing about staying out of gangs. I think if a certain culture can grasps that music, then let them have it. Personally I'd like to hear tripper argue this..because he can grabble this concept more than myself.

Nyck 02-20-2006 02:36 PM

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Machette 02-20-2006 02:41 PM

"killin' infidels and sippin' zinfindel"

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