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Machette 03-02-2006 08:48 AM

AP catches Bush in a lie
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01864.html


I'd post stories about Canadian politics, but only me and ninty would be able to debate about it.

Colonel 03-02-2006 09:05 AM

I didn't see the lie. Was it because Bush said that no one anticipated the levees would break? And that another guy in the video - not in the same frame shot as Pres. Bush so you can't be sure he was conferenced in when that presentation was given - says that it is a "concern" - note that he doesn't say it will happen. Just that it is a concern. For all we know there was another guy that told the President not to worry about the levees.

Nice find on the video, but I think we are beating a dead horse here. Instead of talking about what we did or didn't know before the storm hit, we should be talking about what they are doing now....or more specifically, what the New Orleans and Louisiana governments are doing now.

Nyck 03-02-2006 09:05 AM

so he was told on August 28th about a super storm that hit early morning August 29th that could destroy a town which is under the sea level and has been a disaster waiting to happen for decades.

Things should have been done Ages ago for that city, not 24 hours.

sleeping:

Machette 03-02-2006 09:17 AM

Bush said after Katrina hit he didn't know that such a big storm was coming...did you guys forget about that? I mean if you want I can find some sources, but its pretty obvious..bush said he had no idea that Katrina was going to have a bad effect on new orleans...this video of course shows he was lying all along. Beating a dead horse or not, this shows just how fooked bureaucracy is in washington.

Coleman 03-02-2006 09:32 AM

tell me machette why he would want to "lie" all along. What does he gain by doing this? He sure as hell didn't gain public approval rating points. But like everyone said, what was he going to do 36 hours before the storm hit that would save thousands of lives. Do you want him to go on the TV and say, "New Orleans, I'm sorry, but my analysts and I have come to the conclusion that you're all screwed and are going to die. ...Now you can't call my a lying S.O.B. because I warned ya!"

c'mon rolleyes:

Judas 03-02-2006 09:33 AM

its no big surprise that bush is a liar, and more importatnly, an incompetent.

03-02-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
tell me machette why he would want to "lie" all along. What does he gain by doing this? He sure as hell didn't gain public approval rating points. But like everyone said, what was he going to do 36 hours before the storm hit that would save thousands of lives. Do you want him to go on the TV and say, "New Orleans, I'm sorry, but my analysts and I have come to the conclusion that you're all screwed and are going to die. ...Now you can't call my a lying S.O.B. because I warned ya!"

c'mon rolleyes:

^
what he said.

Machette 03-02-2006 09:46 AM

Believe what you want...I had a feeling before I even posted this that all the conservatives would be tap dancing around this topic.

Coleman 03-02-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Machette
Believe what you want...I had a feeling before I even posted this that all the conservatives would be tap dancing around this topic.

I'm not saying this b/c I'm conservative. I'm saying it b/c it's a reality.

How is hurricane relief effort a bipartisan topic? Conservatives are racist, so that means that would want the levee's to fail and kill all the black people. big conspiracy.

Colonel 03-02-2006 09:49 AM

LOL - I'm not tap dancing. I can't even dance. I just think it is a non-issue.

Machette 03-02-2006 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by Machette
Believe what you want...I had a feeling before I even posted this that all the conservatives would be tap dancing around this topic.

I'm not saying this b/c I'm conservative. I'm saying it b/c it's a reality.

How is hurricane relief effort a bipartisan topic? Conservatives are racist, so that means that would want the levee's to fail and kill all the black people. big conspiracy.

Yes exactly as I said, right? Bush is a god damn racists...what I said in my first few post.

All I am implying is that after katrina hit..bush denied he knew about it...THAT is all I am saying..ffs.

Coleman 03-02-2006 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Machette
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by Machette
Believe what you want...I had a feeling before I even posted this that all the conservatives would be tap dancing around this topic.

I'm not saying this b/c I'm conservative. I'm saying it b/c it's a reality.

How is hurricane relief effort a bipartisan topic? Conservatives are racist, so that means that would want the levee's to fail and kill all the black people. big conspiracy.

Yes exactly as I said, right? Bush is a god damn racists...what I said in my first few post.

All I am implying is that after katrina hit..bush denied he knew about it...THAT is all I am saying..ffs.

racist annoy:

elstatec 03-02-2006 10:28 AM

Have not really seen much into this issue but I personally do not see how bush was at fault with katrina, many more people below him who have power on relief efforts and emergency services etc that dont need the permission of the president to go do what has to be done would be at fault.

Jesters8 03-02-2006 02:35 PM

Any guess where the tape came from? I think Michael Brown himself released himself to show how he took the fall for the President.

Coleman 03-02-2006 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elstatec
Have not really seen much into this issue but I personally do not see how bush was at fault with katrina, many more people below him who have power on relief efforts and emergency services etc that dont need the permission of the president to go do what has to be done would be at fault.

that's what I feel about it.

Many people on this board think President Bush is a guy that has almighty control of all of the American governmnet. You make him seem like he makes every decision and they have to ask Bush like he's king or something. Everything is not his fault. If anything, I'd blame the state and local governments more for not fixing the problems years before rather than bitching that the Feds won't give them $2billion within three hours of them requresting it.

Machette 03-02-2006 03:31 PM

I know that Coleman, the senate released a report last month saying how everyone failed..the mayor, fema, everyone involved. But when the president goes to the media a few days after katrina hits and says "I had no idea this was going to happen", when he infact did and says "we are fully prepared" in the video..you have got to ask some questions, if you don't...well you know the drill.

TGB! 03-02-2006 03:48 PM

The President didnt say he didnt know KATRINA was going to hit - they said they didnt know the severity of the damage that had been caused, or that the levee's would neccesarily break. What this video shows is that they were WARNED about the possible damage estimates, and devestation that would happen. Politically - they are still two different situations. And it is very possible the President DIDNT know what would happen. He is the top-admin, NOT a micro-manager. . .thats not the job of the President.

Sgt>Stackem 03-02-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyck
so he was told on August 28th about a super storm that hit early morning August 29th that could destroy a town which is under the sea level and has been a disaster waiting to happen for decades.

Things should have been done Ages ago for that city, not 24 hours.

sleeping:


and that is a local govt issue not a federal one


I love this!!
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c312 03-02-2006 08:05 PM

why are we still trying to blame someone for this? this was Katrina's fault.

mR.cLeAn 03-02-2006 08:22 PM

What about the thousands of errors that AP makes - lol
As one of many editors for a spanish newspaper in Tampa, I get direct AP wire for publishing ... and everyday stories must be re-edited cause the work wasn't done right in the first place. No sources are unbiased.

Plus, why are we still worrying about Katrina ... we got another hurricane season around the corner ... let us not waste more precious time finding someone to blame, and rebuild correctly. Florida, gets hit every year with some sort of tropical storm or hurricane, and guess what we just prepare for the next year. Plus, New Orleans is not in an ideal location to begin with, to not expect for something to go wrong is deeply foolish.

Eight Ace 03-03-2006 05:03 AM

Re: AP catches Bush in a lie
 
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Originally Posted by Machette
I'd post stories about Canadian politics, but only me and ninty would be able to debate about it.

perhaps pm's then? rolleyes:

Machette 03-03-2006 09:42 AM

Eight Ace the reason I said that because in a recent thread I was told all I did was post stories about Americas misfortunes. If I posted a story about how ralph klein may change health care in the state of alberta, would you now what would happen? Would you know how to debate the issue?

mR.cLeAn 03-03-2006 10:12 AM

Yes I guess we can all debate how bad the US is but not Canada.

Machette 03-03-2006 11:04 AM

Well throw a topic on the table, I'm willing to debate anything. America is such a easily debating topic because everyone in the world at some time has learnt something about the place..Like I said if you wanna talk about Canada being the worst country in the world be my guest...find the topic and lets go. If I put something down more than half the posters in this fourm will have no idea wtf is going on in the issue. A newspaper article can provide the story, but their is always history behind the issue, history which will be overlooked therefore post may sound stupid. Find something on the clarity act issue..lets see how many people even know what it is. rolleyes:

Colonel 03-03-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Machette
....If I put something down more than half the posters in this fourm will have no idea wtf is going on in the issue. ....

That doesn't stop us from debating US topics, why should it stop us from debating Canadian ones? LOL ;)

Short Hand 03-03-2006 11:40 AM

Stop hacking @ machette you fucks and keep to the issue. rolleyes:

Machette 03-03-2006 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel
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Originally Posted by Machette
....If I put something down more than half the posters in this fourm will have no idea wtf is going on in the issue. ....

That doesn't stop us from debating US topics, why should it stop us from debating Canadian ones? LOL ;)

I said put the topic on the table, I'm ready to debate...Want to talk Canadian issues, lets talk about what canadas future is with the harper government..what about the child care issue..and health care..what about that new judge appointed to the supreme court? Come on post some of these issues guys, you want to talk about them so post them. sleeping:

Colonel 03-03-2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
I said put the topic on the table, I'm ready to debate...

Sounds good to me too. I was joking about the not knowing anything about the issues. Well, kinda joking, most of the folks posting in here about political issues are posting from a knee jerk reaction and not from knowledge about the facts. of course, that's way humans are wired.

Sgt>Stackem 03-03-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
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Originally Posted by Colonel
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Originally Posted by Machette
....If I put something down more than half the posters in this fourm will have no idea wtf is going on in the issue. ....

That doesn't stop us from debating US topics, why should it stop us from debating Canadian ones? LOL ;)

I said put the topic on the table, I'm ready to debate...Want to talk Canadian issues, lets talk about what canadas future is with the harper government..what about the child care issue..and health care..what about that new judge appointed to the supreme court? Come on post some of these issues guys, you want to talk about them so post them. sleeping:


health system, a dog can get a hip replacement in weeks but a human has to wait years, great free system

Machette 03-03-2006 02:58 PM

Excellent post Stackem, your brilliance is undeniable. rolleyes:

Coleman 03-03-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
Excellent post Stackem, your brilliance is undeniable.

imwithstupid:

Pyro 03-03-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
its no big surprise that bush is a liar, and more importatnly, an incompetent.


Eight Ace 03-03-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by Judas
its no big surprise that bush is a liar, and more importatnly, an incompetent.


Correct spelling is important when accusing others of incompetence.

Johnj 03-03-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
Well throw a topic on the table, I'm willing to debate anything. America is such a easily debating topic because everyone in the world at some time has learnt something about the place..Like I said if you wanna talk about Canada being the worst country in the world be my guest...find the topic and lets go. If I put something down more than half the posters in this fourm will have no idea wtf is going on in the issue. A newspaper article can provide the story, but their is always history behind the issue, history which will be overlooked therefore post may sound stupid. Find something on the clarity act issue..lets see how many people even know what it is. rolleyes:


The Clarity Act (known as Bill C-20 before it became law) is legislation of Canada's federal parliament that established the conditions under which Ottawa would recognize a vote for secession by one of the provinces.

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Machette 03-03-2006 09:14 PM

gg internet

Short Hand 03-05-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
gg internet

gg google

Sgt>Stackem 03-06-2006 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Machette
Excellent post Stackem, your brilliance is undeniable. rolleyes:


the sorry FACT is that I am right, your health system sucks. Prove me wrong. I dare ya

Machette 03-06-2006 07:08 AM

I won't deny it...but its a better system than a private one that shuts out some 40 odd million people who don't have insurance, and when those people who don't have insurance have to go to the hospital they end up paying 2 or 3 times the given amount. Private health care has its benefits but I'll keep my public health care system..gotta love american media rolleyes:

c312 03-06-2006 07:12 AM

what exactly does american media have to do with healthcare?

Sgt>Stackem 03-06-2006 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by c312
what exactly does american media have to do with healthcare?


he asked for a Canadian issue so I gave him one. He doesnt like it when something Canadian is bad so he puts a spin on it. If something is wrong it has to be the US' fault.


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