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Milla 03-03-2006 11:48 AM

Black
 
Has anyone seen the game Black at all? The graphics looked pretty good. Looks like a decent arcade type shooter game.

http://www.ea.com/official/black/black/us/home.jsp

geRV 03-03-2006 11:49 AM

Seen the commercials, kinda looked like soldier of fortune 2 to me from the clips that ive seen.

Milla 03-03-2006 11:49 AM

Your absolutley right it does. I want to try a demo

TonyMontana 03-03-2006 12:21 PM

did anyone ever end up getting Bet on Soldier? oOo:

anyway this game looks like it could keep me busy for a couple hours, ill check it out

Unknown_Sniper 03-03-2006 12:22 PM

IVE only caught the end of the comercial twice. Looks like it might be ok

Tystnad 03-03-2006 12:26 PM

A m8 o' mine got it fer Xbox, I havent tried it though. He said it was bloody brilliant, you can alter everything in the environment around you. One example he brought up was if you saw a guy run by a window and launched 12 gauge slug through the wal and hit him, hed fly away and the wall would be ruined. Shoot a wall, and you could take someone out with a ricochet. Sounds really cool atleast.

Milla 03-03-2006 12:27 PM

Ill wait till it goes on sale lol

geRV 03-03-2006 12:28 PM

Sounds like a nice concept, but console fps usually = retarded enemies to make up for the clumsy controls. nag:

CoMaToSe 03-03-2006 12:28 PM

BOS annoy:

Tystnad 03-03-2006 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by geRV
Sounds like a nice concept, but console fps usually = retarded enemies to make up for the clumsy controls. nag:

He said the AI was erally good aswell, was a real pain in the arse to get em most of the time.

HeadUp 03-03-2006 12:34 PM

meh looks cool but im not really interested

CoMaToSe 03-03-2006 12:37 PM

white is better IMO

geRV 03-03-2006 12:49 PM

[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/13/turtle.gif[/img]

Trunks 03-03-2006 12:53 PM

twas really hyped up and all, but from reviews and people's impressions, it just doesnt live up to it....Criterion should stick to racing.

Himmler 03-03-2006 01:34 PM

if it isnt on pc ill never even rent it. cant stand console fps

CoMaToSe 03-03-2006 01:48 PM

Actually Ive gotten to love console FPS. The controls are quite easy once you get used to them, and you become a better PC shooter.

SoLiDUS 03-03-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Himmler
if it isnt on pc ill never even rent it. cant stand console fps


gtboys34 03-03-2006 09:54 PM

can't wait to get it. Been waiting for this game and full spec 10 hammers for months now. I'm gonna get the xbox version of black though

Whatada 03-03-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Himmler
if it isnt on pc ill never even rent it. cant stand console fps


snipes 03-03-2006 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Ill wait till it goes on sale lol


Chronic Diarrhea 03-04-2006 07:40 AM

Gerv is right, and I reason I have never owned a console FPS. The AI and the controls are just too horrid for me. If you want to destroy everything in your path go buy Mercenaries. ALso I've heard you really can't destroy that much in the game, it's mainly scripted on what you can destroy with bullets and grenades.

Airborne Butters 03-04-2006 10:41 AM

I'll end up renting it. It sucks cause it has no MP or anything. Not even split screen from what I hear.

elstatec 03-04-2006 12:11 PM

yea not coop, no multiplayer and no online multiplayer, guess they didnt have enough time to develope it fully and the studio were pushed to release it by EA.


Still great game, looks so good for a PS2 game, and the xbox one looks hot too. Played most of it at work, sells like hot cakes and plays nice, huge levels, destructable most things, the weapons with the silencers on make the best sound a silenced weapon does over all other games- not a bad game at all even if it lacks multiplayer. Not legendary but a great play until you complete it.


you anti-console-fps-nubs are such whiney bastards, goldeneye owns over every pc fps (ahem dont try to pass off that goldeneye source as better as it blows) and with console controls well wah wah wah plzdie:

geRV 03-04-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elstatec


you anti-console-fps-nubs are such whiney bastards, goldeneye owns over every pc fps (ahem dont try to pass off that goldeneye source as better as it blows) and with console controls well wah wah wah plzdie:


I think halflife, quake 2, quake 3 counterstrike and halflife 2 would have something to say about that. Goldeneye was a good game but being a console game it was limited to what it was, you'd get far more longevity and fun out of any of the above games mainly because of the user made mods.

Himmler 03-04-2006 01:04 PM

fps on earlier systems were fun. i loved fps on the n64. but on every other system the controls suck my anus.

Blase 03-04-2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elstatec
you anti-console-fps-nubs are such whiney bastards, goldeneye owns over every pc fps (ahem dont try to pass off that goldeneye source as better as it blows) and with console controls well wah wah wah plzdie:

That in itself is an argument agaisnt console games.

Why is it that so many console gamers still cling to a Nintendo 64 game from the 90's to prove that a console system can get it right?

Even if Goldeneye was better than any PC FPS (and I disagree with that) where have all the great console FPS been since then? Modern consoles fail to deliever in that genre of gaming, and the PC is the only place where you can get an FPS that will deliever a substantial amount of substance.

elstatec 03-04-2006 03:24 PM

you can argue against it but perfect dark, halo 2, killzone, far cry instincts, timesplitters future perfect, , halo 1 and black to name a few are not bad at all and do deliver on a "substantial amount of substance."

[quote:35de2]Why is it that so many console gamers still cling to a Nintendo 64 game from the 90's to prove that a console system can get it right?
[/quote:35de2]


why so many? maybe because it has a good claim to the throne of best fps, hence alot of people claiming it even if it is an old game. Ive played pc fps alot, console fps alot, but never have i found i game i loved more than goldeneye. Doesnt have to prove that consoles get it right but there are good console fps's out there even if you try to ignore it.

[quote:35de2]That in itself is an argument agaisnt console games.
[/quote:35de2]


is what?

Blase 03-04-2006 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elstatec
you can argue against it but perfect dark, halo 2, killzone, far cry instincts, timesplitters future perfect, , halo 1 and black to name a few are not bad at all and do deliver on a "substantial amount of substance."

I'll give you Perfect Dark and Halo 1&2, Timesplitters was marginal, and if it weren't for auto-aim it'd be impossible to hit anything (gamecube version).

I happen to have thought Killzone was a god awful game, it didn't bring anything new and it wasn't a horribly exciting game at best. As for Far Cry to say that it's just a port from PC wouldn't be too far from the truth, sure it's got the whole new character and the mutant thing going for it but the basic premise was invented on the PC.

[quote:5bac6]Why is it that so many console gamers still cling to a Nintendo 64 game from the 90's to prove that a console system can get it right?
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why so many? maybe because it has a good claim to the throne of best fps, hence alot of people claiming it even if it is an old game. Ive played pc fps alot, console fps alot, but never have i found i game i loved more than goldeneye. Doesnt have to prove that consoles get it right but there are good console fps's out there even if you try to ignore it.
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I'm not ignoring the fact that their are good console FPS games, but to put down PC FPS games in favor of one Nintendo 64 game is unreasonable. You mentioned the other games however, and that makes your claim a bit more credible.


[quote:5bac6][quote:5bac6]That in itself is an argument agaisnt console games.
[/quote:5bac6]


is what?[/quote:5bac6]

Using Goldeneye to defend all consoles, when really all it is was an extreme exception for it's time.

CoMaToSe 03-04-2006 11:10 PM

Actually I find console fos controls to be a bit more intuitive once you get used to them. However, I do enjoy both PC and console shooters. Dont play elitist PC nub just because you're too lazy/uncoordinated to figure the controls out rolleyes:

Miscguy 03-05-2006 10:43 AM

Is there talk of porting it to PC? If so i'll wait for that, if not i will go pick it up for the Xbox. A friend of mine was praising it last night and says its a good game. When i get console shit its not for the MP, and he says the environments and shit are really nice and over all the game was worth it.

Milla 03-05-2006 11:29 PM

I wonder HOW good it looks on a PS2.
Its a shame EA ports shit from consoles to PC and doesnt offer upgraded graphics or controls. The fucking Madden games are one example. I hate football games on PC, they are so shitty, its just a port from the console and they dont add graphic enhancing options or anything like that.

TGB! 03-05-2006 11:38 PM

Its your basic Shoot-Em-Up. Nothing original just lots of guns, lots of bullets, and lots of dead Enemy AI.

It really is just GUN PORN as the creators described it is - it really could have been more though youll take what you get.

Nice graphics though, and its great for a weekend all nighter rental with your homosexual friends with gun-fetishes.

Milla 03-05-2006 11:40 PM

[quote="TGB!":a72cf]Nice graphics though, and its great for a weekend all nighter rental with your homosexual friends with gun-fetishes.[/quote:a72cf]

Sounds good enough for me to get!

Hopefully with the engine thats powering the game they can make a more superior game with it.

Scorpion -]M15F1T[- 03-06-2006 06:09 AM

http://entertainmentwise.com/review?id=14150

a review of the Xbox version my mate did for a webite he goes to.
It gives a good idea of what its like.

Miscguy 03-06-2006 07:02 AM

Your friend needs an editor.

[quote:9f320]You can zoom in on enemies with every weapon which is handy for those one shot to the head kills, however on playing it I found it a lot easy (and a lot more fun) to just ambush enemies and blow them to bits. [/quote:9f320]

[quote:9f320]You and a pal are stood on a watch point, [/quote:9f320]

Ones a typo, and ones just a pour word choice that can seem a bit off when your just reading through as quick as possible.

c312 03-06-2006 07:06 AM

I'm gonna rent it sometime soon.

As for console vs. pc : I think PC wins because they have come out with a larger number of good FPS. Consoles have (within this decade) come out with very few great FPS games, in fact I'd call Halo 1&2 the only great FPS games to be released in the last decade for console, and that's because the did something different that no one else can seem to mimic. Plus, the mouse is the best aiming device out there YET, and I say yet because the Revolution looks to challenge it.

CoMaToSe 03-06-2006 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Miscguy
Your friend needs an editor.

[quote:a24ef]You can zoom in on enemies with every weapon which is handy for those one shot to the head kills, however on playing it I found it a lot easy (and a lot more fun) to just ambush enemies and blow them to bits.

[quote:a24ef]You and a pal are stood on a watch point, [/quote:a24ef]

Ones a typo, and ones just a pour word choice that can seem a bit off when your just reading through as quick as possible.[/quote:a24ef]
Thats a tad ironic hake:

Milla 03-06-2006 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miscguy
Your friend needs an editor.

[quote:1b74e]You can zoom in on enemies with every weapon which is handy for those one shot to the head kills, however on playing it I found it a lot easy (and a lot more fun) to just ambush enemies and blow them to bits.

[quote:1b74e]You and a pal are stood on a watch point,

Ones a typo, and ones just a pour word choice that can seem a bit off when your just reading through as quick as possible.[/quote:1b74e]
Thats a tad ironic hake:[/quote:1b74e]

rofl i was about to say that

CoMaToSe 03-06-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Milla
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMaToSe
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miscguy
Your friend needs an editor.

[quote:3025e]You can zoom in on enemies with every weapon which is handy for those one shot to the head kills, however on playing it I found it a lot easy (and a lot more fun) to just ambush enemies and blow them to bits.

[quote:3025e]You and a pal are stood on a watch point,

Ones a typo, and ones just a pour word choice that can seem a bit off when your just reading through as quick as possible.

Thats a tad ironic hake:[/quote:3025e]

rofl i was about to say that[/quote:3025e]
Well I beat your ass to it, didnt I biggrin:

Tripper 03-06-2006 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by c312
I'm gonna rent it sometime soon.

As for console vs. pc : I think PC wins because they have come out with a larger number of good FPS. Consoles have (within this decade) come out with very few great FPS games, in fact I'd call Halo 1&2 the only great FPS games to be released in the last decade for console, and that's because the did something different that no one else can seem to mimic.

The first 2 MOH's came out on console in 1999 and 2000 - They were fucking wicked....and wasn't Goldeneye 64's release within the last decade...?

I'm sure there are more widely regarded console FPS games than just Halo 1 & 2.....I personally thought those games (especially the 2nd one) were totally over-rated...


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