Just in case if you didn't see that yet.
 

Hey, your on my side webb? Nice to have another around here!

The second edition of Loose Change is probably one of the best 9/11 docs out there that i've seen, and i've seen a lot of them.

Everyone should watch this film for their own good.

Right and lots of G.I's. dead for nothing... annoy:

1 hour 21 minutes. ed:

Seen this a while ago, gets pretty interesting. The part with the tower collapsing and then them highlighting what appeared to be smaller explosions on floors beneath the falling building (like detonators going off) was pretty ed: eek:

You can find it on torrent sites P2P and pretty much anywhere else you downlaod video. Download it, save it whatch it when you have time. It's legal to download as well.

It's worth it. Trust me.

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Can dload the google version as well and watch it when you want.

You guys saw those pictures where they tried to prove there was a little pod on the under side of the plane and an explosion before the plane was even 1/3 into the building.

Yeah what about the Penn,Shanksville crash site, NO BODIES,NO PLANE PARTS,NO SEATS,NO LANDING GEAR,NO ENGINE... Just a hole on the ground. eek:

Theres definately more to 911 than meets the eye. Just that a lot of the stuff is on the net and dismissed as internet conspiracy theories. Suppose in time all the stuff that is being speculated about will either be proved right or wrong.

should be played in movie theaters.

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I watched it all and it was very interesting and sounds very reasonable but gives me goosebumps at the thought of our government doing that.

Yeah Central Park !!!

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"One half-ton piece of engine is found over a mile away."

Yeah. I guess that's...natural-grown metal and seatbelts. Right?..


You know what the ground does to a non-penetration bomb going 800 feet per second? It obliterates it. It's gone. Nothing more than a few shards of metal. Now think of what a plane going relatively the same speed happens when that hits the ground. Much less, a human body. You don't have to be a genius to come up with a reasonable answer.

very interesting video, i wouldn't dismiss it as nonsense. like already stated, there is definently more to 9/11 than meets the eye.

[quote="TGB!":6abab]Government involved yet NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL has leaked information implicating them?

We cant hide abuse photos, Downing Street Memos, the existence of a secret spy program, and the identity of who leaked the name of a CIA agent -

Yet somehow, someway - were able to keep secret our explicit involvement in the training, funding, transportation, and co-ordination of attacks on the WTC; without a SINGLE person stepping forward and telling some plucky news reporter to "follow the money".

Oh yea.[/quote:6abab]

I don't think anyone is really saying everyone in the government knew what was going on. I would say this would be an extremly small group.

In any event, the anomilies during that day are enough to arouse suspision regardless of whether or not it seems plausible to some, in my opinion.

By the way, have you watched this video?

it may be 81 minutes but it's definetly worth the time hawke

[quote="TGB!":0e2cd]Government involved yet NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL has leaked information implicating them?

We cant hide abuse photos, Downing Street Memos, the existence of a secret spy program, and the identity of who leaked the name of a CIA agent -

Yet somehow, someway - were able to keep secret our explicit involvement in the training, funding, transportation, and co-ordination of attacks on the WTC; without a SINGLE person stepping forward and telling some plucky news reporter to "follow the money".

Oh yea.[/quote:0e2cd]

probably becuase our image would be completely shot to fucking hell and no one would want anything to do with us ever again. but yes you have a valid point.

[quote:5697d]I don't think anyone is really saying everyone in the government knew what was going on.[/quote:5697d]

I didnt say everyone either. However, lets look at some of the key people implicated in the coverup:

President George Bush.
Vice President Dick Cheney.
Then Attorney General John Ashcroft.
Chief of Staff Andy Card
Karl Rove
Sec of Def. Donald Rumsfield
Larry Silverstein ("owner" of the WTC)
(by implication of the above) NY Mayor Rudy Guilliani
NY Fire Department
The FTA
Osama Bin Laden (and his lieutenants)
Anyone apart of the teams inspecting the crash sites

Possibly:
Sec. Condoleeza Rice
Fmr. Sec. Colin Powell
FMR CIA Chief Tenent (and really this guy should be in the main players considering the information that comes across his desk).

Who else. . .I cant think of anyone right now off the top of my head.

So you have these key players, and their surrounding staff, and however many operatives/agents/whoever working the angle in Afghanistan and The United States - easily the "conspiracy" encompases minimum - lets say 70 to 100 people, to get this thing. Easily. Anything less - its impossible given the people involved who are supposed to have had a hand in all this. But even if you have a STINGY estimate of what 25 to 50 people solely involved in the conspiracy (not taking into account the bombers themselves, OBL and his men) - we're supposed to believe that not a SINGLE PERSON in the group would crack, would have second thoughts, would suspect anythings going on, would question why theyre facilitating the movement of arab nationals into the country or providing them with flight training. . .all this happened within a span of seven months, and without a single person leaking ANY information? This intricate plan which has YET to be broken in any convincing way is the work of supposed "morons" and "incompotents" within the Bush Admin?

[quote:5697d]I would say this would be an extremly small group.[/quote:5697d]

For an operation this large? Not likely.

[quote:5697d]In any event, the anomilies during that day are enough to arouse suspision regardless of whether or not it seems plausible to some, in my opinion.[/quote:5697d]

What anomalies? Jet Fighters not being scrambled? The President saying he saw the towers fall "before" they did? Uhm - what else?

[quote:5697d]By the way, have you watched this video?[/quote:5697d]

Nope - and I have zero desire to. Just like I have no desire to watch any "pro 9-11 was the work of terrorists only" videos. All of this is conjecture built on small piles of evidence - theories whose parts are greater than its sum (thats not a good thing).

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12286423/:5f8e6]same story, but with transcript[/url:5f8e6]

there's a link to the transcript in there a few paragraphs down the_finger: beer:

crap, I looked for it, but I didn't see it. I guess it was because it wasn't in the body of a paragraph. oh well

what was awesome...never seen that before.

it seems plausible...but if this shit is true...id be pissed off Canada ever respected the US...

Mass Murder.......is not a good thing.

Harper is already drawing close ties to the U.S...Best part about the new government is our new defense minister was a lobbyist for arms companies from 2001-2004..and the companies he worked for are apparently going to win their bids for contracts..gg for accountability harper you fucking tool. rolleyes:

Can't believe Canadian people were ignorant enough to elect him.