Gay Marriage Ban: Protection or Distraction
 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198176,00.html

I am leaning towards this whole thing being a political move to get some things out of the spotlight. This guy probably says it best for my opinion. I know that the administration has had its eyes on this issue for a while and I guess they figure they need to do something about it before the power can have the chance to tilt left.

[quote:7c994]"I honestly cannot say whether the GOP's efforts to ban gay marriage is an act of protection or distraction, but I can tell you I am more concerned about finding a practical solution to the immigration issue, the war in Iraq, the nuclear issue with Iran, and the continued corruption scandals that too many people are content with sweeping under the rug." — Mario[/quote:7c994]

Well we know distractions and other methods of shifting the spotlight aren't out of the question for the administration...

so true, out of all the things to debate about, they talk about this shit. America should be ashamed

I'm not sure you can call this a distraction. This has been around for basically Bush's entire time in office. I think it's just an issue that he hasn't brought to a solution he wants. And also, with all the other stuff in the news, I'm not sure how this is really distracting anyone, it's just another issue, it's not like they're not still talking about Iran, Iraq, etc...

What is everybody's stance on gay marriage, here?

HERESY!

sex does belong in the Constitution. Most states voted on this during the last election. It didnt pass at the state level so why screw with it? Old news rehashed. Keep religion out of politics PERIOD

It's a pointless issue, marriage isn't defined by just one group of people and that does include the Federal Government. Let it go and lets move on to more important issues with far more reaching consequences.

It would be amazing if there was a direct voting power from the american registered voter. I'd be interesting to see the results on a huge scale "election" type voting on this issue. If the right amount of people showed up to "the polling stations" there'd probably be enough support for the ammendment.

it shouldnt matter what the people vote on, the ammendment is still predjudicial and discrimination.

No, it's a stupid waste of time and effort. People need to stop worryin about 'boys kissing' and more attention to things that acually effect them and the nation in a more dire way.

This may surprise some of you, but I don't care if gay people get married. I think homosexuality is bad and I don't support it, but I don't think it should be outlawed, just like I don't think infidelity should be outlawed.

oOo:

To turn the argument around, "My beleifs aren't bothering you, wtf do you care?"

Yeah I almost fell out of my chair c312.

It's not your beliefs that bother me, it's your ignorance.

Why is his ignorance bothering you. Are you his gay son that just came out of the closet? I'm pretty sure c312 doesn't treat a gay person any differently than a straight person.

Just because I disagree with smoking doesn't mean I am going to act like an ass to every smoker I see. Just because I see a pregnant 17 year old girl doesn't mean I'm going to spit on her and call her names. Just because I see a guy wearing a KKK uniform doesn't mean I'm going to try to start a riot in the street and throw stones at that person. You can totally respect a person without agreeing with what they do.

[quote=Coleman]Why is his ignorance bothering you. Are you his gay son that just came out of the closet? I'm pretty sure c312 doesn't treat a gay person any differently than a straight person.

Just because I disagree with smoking doesn't mean I am going to act like an ass to every smoker I see. Just because I see a pregnant 17 year old girl doesn't mean I'm going to spit on her and call her names. Just because I see a guy wearing a KKK uniform doesn't mean I'm going to try to start a riot in the street and throw stones at that person. You can totally respect a person without agreeing with what they do.[/quote:de015]

How do you not agree with someones sexual prefrence? It's like saying "Well, I don't like Blacks becuase I don't support having black skin."

If you want to put it in a dumb way, it would be more like, "Well, I don't agree with having black skin, but I still respect them."

It's a religious thing, and if you can't respect that, you need to rethink who is the "ignorant" one.

Back to my original question thumper, how can you disagree with someones sexual orientation?

Just because it's a "religious thing" doesn't make it right.

Because I beleive homosexuality is a choice.

Why would someone choose to be gay? And besides if you believe in destiny and that our lives have been pre-planned by God, how can you blame a gay person for being gay?

The Bible doesn't say anything like that, so I'm not sure where you got that idea. I beleive our lives aren't pre-planned by God, he knows what will happen, but he doesn't change or determine any of it.

you really have no idea what you're talking about. That's like puritan stuff right there.

Catholics believe we all have a choice in life. A lot of it stems back from Adam and Eve. They chose to sin...God doesn't prevent us from sinning. He's there to forgive us later when we're truely sorry. That's a Catholic thing.

It's called "free will" and it's a major part of Christianity.

So in your mind there's not even the slightest possibility that homosexually is something you're born with?

Also, how old do you believe the world is? And is the jury still out on evolution?

Edit: I really would like to know your answers to these questions.

-There is a difference between tolerance and acceptance.

another time and another thread pal

Majority of political debates go off topic anyways.. eek:

I think you people should be happy that this new generation of conservatives aren't radically against gay marriage. It means "our" cause is getting somewhere at least.

I personally support it, but at least these guys aren't going to go out and boycott any support for gay marriage. Unlike the last few generations of right-wingers.

People should be allowed to not like things without being pestered about it. Life is about compromise, and finding middle ground.

Who cares? Just answer the questions and stop stonewalling.

the gay groups screwed up when they started this whole mess. they should have never used the term "marrage" it seems alot of people have a problem with the wording of it. Alot would not object to a legal union but when you call it marrage they get thier panties in a wad.

I. personally, dont give a hoot who you sleep with or what you do in your bedroom but I do know the govt shouldnt have any say in it (within reason of course ie rape, child molestation ect)

1. Not nearly as old as most people think
2. No, I don't beleive in macroevolution, micro, yes, but not macro.

this means alot to me, coming from you, because you are one of the ones here that i do respect.

I chose to be bisexual, because I felt that I can find love in not just females. I believe that true love doesn't have to come from where you are told it has to come from (i.e. Men must sleep with women), and that i can find my soulmate in another male. I do have strong feelings for another male friend of mine, and he feels the same way (he is a full homosexual though), but since it is highly unaccepted where I come from, it will remain a closet thing.

You're too gay.

don't derail this plz.

but in response, so?

guys who only take it half-way up are ok, but when they let you
put it all the way in...that's when they are just filthy poofs imho.. annoy:

[quote="Eight Ace":794df]guys who only take it half-way up are ok, but when they let you
put it all the way in...that's when they are just filthy poofs imho.. annoy:[/quote:794df]

LOL. My thoughts exactly.