Terror Storm
 

I'm not real sure what to think of this but I know for a fact that some of the things said on here are true, I wonder if all the sources are reliable... Certainly gives a few things to think about.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9497686216

i will take a look at it tonight when i have free time.

Heh, I actually just watched this yesterday, I am a fan of Alex Jones videos.

Coleman, I can tell you now that you will not like what is said in this video.

Alex Jones professes that 9/11 was an inside job carried out by small elements of the US government.

He's also done documentaries on the Bohemian Grove and the Illuminati. All very interesting and all very scary.

The thing with Alex Jones is that he's very brash and is very loud. The first time I heard him I though he was a raving lunitic. Now, you don't really see him go off in this particular film, however, if you listen to his radio show or some of his other docs or other stuff he's done, if you're just diving into this kind of thing, his tactics and bluntness will most likley shock you and turn you off the subject.

Another thing with him is that he uses stories from the mainstream media to back up what he's saying. He shows article after article backing up his position.

After viewing this last night I said to myself that this was one of his better documentaries. I would recommend showing this to people who are not yet fully aware of what is going on in the world, and this is a pretty good doc that it won't completly freak them out.

After reading that you'd probably think he was left leaning. Jones himself dismisses the left/right scale as a way of dividing people, but if you had to put him into a category he'd definetly be right wing. He's ademently pro gun, anti abortion, pro god, traditional values etc.

After viewing the video myself, fluffy, i can say that I believe and agree with a majority of the topics and evidence provided in the film.

His two websites are:

http://www.infowars.com
and
http://www.prisonplanet.com

Actually, if you remember charlie sheen talking about 9/11, well it was Alex Jones' radio show in which he made the stements on.

PS, you can also find a better vertsion of this film and other jones docs on bit torrent sites. It's also legal to download because he says he wants to spread the word.

One part he didn't comment on was the death of one of the WMD expert guys in England, Dr Kelly. I was always suspicious when that happened because it was just so appropriate that he should commit suicide right on the eve of war.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3167281.stm

I still can't believe the US Govt would fly planes into the WTC though it's just nuts. But the way that other building fell was certainly suspicious too.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

It is nuts, yes, but the amount of overwhelming evidence to support the hypothesis cannot be ignored.

I've had enough time to watch the first 28mins. Im going to finish it tomorrow.

When I saw Cindy Sheehan being used as a source and people supporting her I really thought the documentry went downhill. And yes, they made this before they told the press that they found WMD's. They also interviewed the dimwitts at Crawford ranch and made the impression that everyone of those people are just like 'this individual'.

tHEY NEVER FOUND wmd'S.

[quote="Short Hand":17d16]tHEY NEVER FOUND wmd'S.[/quote:17d16]they never found working nukes. They found weapons that were able to kill thousands at a time. 'Nuff said. This isn't a thread about WMD's. Its about this weird documentary.

[quote=Coleman]they never found working nukes. They found weapons that were able to kill thousands at a time. 'Nuff said. This isn't a thread about WMD's. Its about this weird documentary.[/quote:34b47]

NO reason to go to war AND KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE !!!!


Peanuts, that is all they fucking found, pathetic peanuts.

[quote="Short Hand":44e83][quote=Coleman][quote="Short Hand":44e83][quote=Coleman]When I saw Cindy Sheehan being used as a source and people supporting her I really thought the documentry went downhill. And yes, they made this before they told the press that they found WMD's. They also interviewed the dimwitts at Crawford ranch and made the impression that everyone of those people are just like 'this individual'.[/quote]

tHEY NEVER FOUND wmd'S.[/quote]they never found working nukes. They found weapons that were able to kill thousands at a time. 'Nuff said. This isn't a thread about WMD's. Its about this weird documentary.[/quote:44e83]

NO reason to go to war AND KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE !!!!


Peanuts, that is all they fucking found, pathetic peanuts.[/quote:44e83]Hey Mr. Caps Lock, it all says it here why I think we went to war: [url="http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1014286"]http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... ?t=1014286[/url] I even included an audio link

NO, I just can't beleive you use the mouse size expired cache as a "I told you so" claim. It is nothing.

[quote="Short Hand":3cc8f]NO, I just can't beleive you use the mouse size expired cache as a "I told you so" claim. It is nothing.[/quote:3cc8f]dude, wtf are you talking about? There were tens of thousands of these

ugh, this forum is turning into more of a "Hop on the Bandwagon of Conspiracy" forum than a good political discussion forum.

All I am gonna say is this... Just because this is an alternative to what is a "mainstream" and accepted beleif, does not in any way make it more credible than that mainstream beleif....I think a lot of people behind this sort of crap see the videos and say, "wait a minute check out all that stuff they said, that's crazy, let's not trust the government." Without actually checking into any of this stuff and refusing to accept contrary beleif because believing in these theories makes them feel like they know "the truth" about something and in some mysterious way, that makes them feel enlightened or something, like they are on the "inside" and are privy to something others are not. I see it as people being easily swayed by something that makes them feel like they are special and its really annoying. Maybe I should post a video and see how many people will cite it as a reason for abandoning all trust of the government, you know becuase that makes a ton of sense...


and short, the weapons that were found are only part of what Saddam had and was told to destroy yet could never prove he did...My question is this: Why do you trust Saddam Hussein so much?

If Saddam DID have these weapons - How come he didn't use them when the U.S was on his doorstep? If he's so untrustworthy and cutthroat, don't you think he would have done something when he knew the jig was up?

He had all that time do something to the U.S between the gulf wars, and he didn't really do anything - I guess that's why people didn't feel threatened enough by him to go to war...
...and if you say "But he's a DICTATOR!" Then just think to yourself how many other oppresive regimes are in power, that the U.S has just ignored. Look at africa.

I could pose you with a similar question: Why do you trust your own government so much?

Don't you think having that much power and money isn't threatening at all?

You slandering douche.... WHO SAID I TRUSTED SADDAM HUSSEIN oOo: ? Again you are putting fucking words in my mouth, I do not trust the guy, and neither do I trust the current administration. I just beleive there was no justable cause for war.......

As DOES 95 % of everyone on the planet. except a few nutbags such as yourselves who won't just fucking admit that this war was a terrible mistake which has cost thousands of lives and has destabilized the middle east even more. IS it really that hard to grow some balls and just admit that you were wrong ?

If he used the weapons against us, it would have made the entire world angry at him and his country. It would never have been able to defend himself in a trial like he is trying to do now. He would have had even more enemies than he does now. And as for why I trust my own government: They haven't given me a reason not to, and it's ridiculous that you would even put them in the same light as a government like Saddam Hussein's.

As for Africa. You are absolutely right. Personally, I feel that the only way we can really help Africa is to destroy their dictator regimes. You can't keep pumping money into the continent and hope it will heal itself. THere needs to be infrastructure and government foundation laid before anything will work, and I'm all for trying to help establish that, even if it takes military presence.

[quote="Short Hand":45ab5]You slandering douche.... WHO SAID I TRUSTED SADDAM HUSSEIN oOo: ? Again you are putting fucking words in my mouth, I do not trust the guy, and neither do I trust the current administration. I just beleive there was no justable cause for war.......

As DOES 95 % of everyone on the planet. except a few nutbags such as yourselves who won't just fucking admit that this war was a terrible mistake which has cost thousands of lives and has destabilized the middle east even more. IS it really that hard to grow some balls and just admit that you were wrong ?[/quote:45ab5]

No, you do trust him. He had weapons after the first Gulf War. The UN told him to destroy them. He said he did. The US said he didn't (he couldn't provide proof of the destruction of some of the weapons). By subscribing to the notion that there are no weapons there, you must either beleive (a)that Saddam destroyed them on his own or (b) that he shipped them out, those are the only explanations as to the weapons not being there anymore...unless you beleive in magic.

[quote="Short Hand":9a1a0]You slandering douche.... WHO SAID I TRUSTED SADDAM HUSSEIN oOo: ? Again you are putting fucking words in my mouth, I do not trust the guy, and neither do I trust the current administration. I just beleive there was no justable cause for war.......

As DOES 95 % of everyone on the planet. except a few nutbags such as yourselves who won't just fucking admit that this war was a terrible mistake which has cost thousands of lives and has destabilized the middle east even more. IS it really that hard to grow some balls and just admit that you were wrong ?[/quote:9a1a0]

It's amusing how its just Americans who support the war. I can't think of one non-american who still supports the war in Iraq.

...but of course that just means we're all just jealous of their country. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that it might be true. There's another group of people who believed so much in their own government and ignored the calls from the rest of the world...No points for guessing who they were, and what happened to them.

I don't buy this for a second. Why would he keep them then? If he thought as far ahead as you're considering, don't you think he would have ordered the elimination of the weapons? That would ensure the rest of the world wouldn't have reason to hate him.

...and I didn't put them in the same light as Hussein's regime. I simply believe if you put enough faith into a government as powerful as yours (when you don't actually have to - You're ALLOWED to question your own government, infact you SHOULD in order to keep it running effieciently and without corruption) you're dangerously allowing the wool to be pulled over your eyes should the need arise.

Why would he ordered them destroyed when he could have easily just sold them and got money instead?

What is he gonna do with money when his country is being destroyed by American forces who are out to kill/capture him?

Hell if I know, I'm sure he thought he could escape though. Maybe he would have bought some more gold plated MP5s