Israeli troops enter Lebanon amid kidnap reports
 

annoy:

That part of the world is so screwed up its crazy. This will get far worse before it gets better

That's where World War Three will be fought. Not in Europe.

I beleive Asia and the MIddle east will be the major staging grounds. As well.

North Korea, is @ extremely high tensions right now with Japan and South Korea, if war breaks out who knows. China also has strains with Taiwan as does Pakistan and India. The place is a kettle waiting to explode.

HMS Illustrious has been ordered by the MoD to make ready to sail to Lebanon. Bear in mind that Hizbollah has already damaged one IDF ship and killed four Isralie sailors. And now Israel is accusing Iran of supplying and maybe even firing the missile.

[img]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40627000/jpg/_40627725_hms_illustrious203.jpg[/img]

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like this one could go all the way; all out war between Israel, Iran and Syria. With the possibility that the USA, China and Russia could be drawn in...

And, of course, that means good ol Blighty will be dragged to the party as well!

Strange how WW1 starts with the assassination of one guy & all this bs starts with one kidnapping.

Altogether now, "It's the End of The World as we know it..."

It's very possible. If this does escalate into a full blown war, the US will be involved whether they like it or not. Israel needs the US to fight alongside them. So a false flag attack isn't out of the picture in my mind. Carried out by the Isralies or actually even the US and blamed on Iran or Hezbollah or whoever on either the US or British. It doesn't really matter. If one of those British ships gets hit, the US will back up the UK, and I would not be suprised if Canada got in the act in some way as well with a few warships, and maybe some CF-18's.

And really, how gullible are we? Does Israel really care about 2 abducted soldiers? Give me a break. This only provides them justification to blow the shit out of anything they please.

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.c ... e=20060716

[img]http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/Lebanon.jpg[/img]

another War maybe ?

cant blame us for this one

I bet we could ! (SELLING ARMS TO ISRAEL !)

The US is Israels lap dog. If Israel wants the US in a war, they'll be in a war.

That'll be a shitty war to fight in, would end up being more pointless than world war one.

then how stupid is the lebanese leadership (by that I mean hezbollah, syria and iran) to have provided that excuse in the first place,
give me a break...why don't they return the soldiers they didn't murder and see what Israel does?


edit: lol at claims of Israels attacks being disproportionate, like hezbollah demands for the release of
2,389,000 "innocent" prisoners for the 2 soldiers...they really understand proprtion those mad mullahs, ffs. rolleyes:

Israeli soldiers were on the lebanese side of the border.

[quote="Short Hand":45878]I bet we could ! (SELLING ARMS TO ISRAEL !)[/quote:45878]

so we can blame Iran for the missile that hit the Israeli ship?

'ISRAEL accused Lebanon of an act of war yesterday after Hezbollah guerrillas captured two Israeli soldiers in a daring cross-border raid and killed eight others...'
[url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-2267864.html:e1dd3]link[/url:e1dd3]

'JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The Israeli Cabinet authorized "severe and harsh" retaliation on Lebanon after Hezbollah guerillas kidnapped two soldiers and killed three others in a cross-border raid Wednesday.'
[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/12/mideast/:e1dd3]link[/url:e1dd3]

'Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has declared a Lebanese guerilla attack on Israel's northern border to be "an act of war,...'
[url=http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/kidnapping-an-act-of-war-olmert/2006/07/12/1152637734934.html:e1dd3]link[/url:e1dd3]

'BEIRUT, Lebanon - Hezbollah militants crossed into Israel on Wednesday and captured two Israeli soldiers...'
[url=http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/breaking_news/15019406.htm:e1dd3]link[/url:e1dd3]

I can only find links that show your comment to be wrong, can you please show me
where the kidnapped "Israeli soldiers were on the lebanese side of the border."

or is your comment intentionally vague, in a deliberate attempt to fool some of the people some of the time?

They were in Israel and were taken into Lebanon hence why the planes bombed bridges in order to cut them off.

[quote:6df5e]The sources said the Israeli soldiers had been seized at around 9 a.m. (0600 GMT) across the border from Aita al-Shaab, some 15 km (nine miles) from the Mediterranean coast.[/quote:6df5e]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060712/ts_ ... ast_dc_287

Aita al-Shaab is in Lebanon.

where has machette been?

[quote=c312]so we can blame Iran for the missile that hit the Israeli ship?[/quote:b1146]

Yep.

damn, all hell is breaking lose. i wonder which third party will get involved first, syria, iran, US, UK, or Russia...

I heard that New Gingrich wants to have a joint session of Congress to discuss on naming "our conflict in the middle east" as officially "World War III". I guess he thinks that if you call it a world war, the american people (and others fighting islamic extremism) would be more persuaded to "be the winners of a world war" and do more of what it takes to win. I don't know when or if this will happen though.

I'll be damned

I think calling it WWIII might freak some people out.

As do I. I don't think it should be called a world war until we're fighting russia, china, and north korea. That'll be some scary stuff then.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060712/ts_ ... ast_dc_287

Aita al-Shaab is in Lebanon.[/quote:d3fab]
your own source calls them cross-border attacks, Aita al-Shaab may be in lebanon,
but as your quote says "across the border FROM aita al-shaab"...nice try tho... rolleyes:




'Israel launched the raids after Hezbollah, the Lebanese political and military organisation,
attacked northern Israel on Wednesday killing eight soldiers and abducting two.'
[url=http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A67F0AD3-7964-41BC-98A9-CA752CA5B89F.htm:d3fab]aljazeera[/url:d3fab]

although I'm sure you can find some anti Israel/conspiracy theory bullshit site that agrees with you.

hey, i can use this emoticon as well rolleyes:

look at em go.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG15Ak02.html

[quote:10c24]It all started on July 12 when Israel troops were ambushed on Lebanon's side of the border with Israel. [/quote:10c24]

PS, your feelings of disdain towards others with an alternate viewpoint really show.

Perhaps you need to get laid.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060712/ts_ ... ast_dc_287

Aita al-Shaab is in Lebanon.[/quote:9fc2e]

So across the border from a Lebanese town would be Israel. Everywhere I've read says it was in Israel as well...

I don't see why it matters where...there was an attack on Israeli troops 8 of which I think were killed and 2 were captured not to mention the previous abduction of an Israeli soldier.

yeah, true enough.

Them being killed and kidnapped by Lebanese people coming into Israel is different than them being killed or captured while on a mission or something in Lebanon

of course it is, but for people whose only agenda is anti Israeli/ anti America it's not
enough to claim "This only provides them justification to blow the shit out of anything
they please.", they also have to pretend that the fault and the aggression is entirely Israels... rolleyes:




good to see even some Arab countries have had a gutfull of hezbollah:


'Saudi Arabia, with Jordan, Egypt and several Persian Gulf states, chastised Hezbollah for “unexpected,
inappropriate and irresponsible acts” at an emergency Arab League summit meeting in Cairo on Saturday.

It is nearly unheard of for Arab officials to chastise an Arab group engaged in conflict with Israel,
especially as images of destruction by Israeli warplanes are beamed into Arab living rooms.
Normally under such circumstances, Arabs are not blamed, and condemnations of Israel are routine.

But the willingness of those governments to defy public opinion in their own countries underscores a
shift that is prompted by the growing influence of Iran and Shiite Muslims in Iraq and across the region.'

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/17/world/middleeast/17arab.html:7b46b]NYTimes article[/url:7b46b]

[quote="Eight Ace":f8522]of course it is, but for people whose only agenda is anti Israeli/ anti America it's not
enough to claim "This only provides them justification to blow the shit out of anything
they please.", they also have to pretend that the fault and the aggression is entirely Israels... rolleyes:




good to see even some Arab countries have had a gutfull of hezbollah:


'Saudi Arabia, with Jordan, Egypt and several Persian Gulf states, chastised Hezbollah for “unexpected,
inappropriate and irresponsible acts” at an emergency Arab League summit meeting in Cairo on Saturday.

It is nearly unheard of for Arab officials to chastise an Arab group engaged in conflict with Israel,
especially as images of destruction by Israeli warplanes are beamed into Arab living rooms.
Normally under such circumstances, Arabs are not blamed, and condemnations of Israel are routine.

But the willingness of those governments to defy public opinion in their own countries underscores a
shift that is prompted by the growing influence of Iran and Shiite Muslims in Iraq and across the region.'

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/17/world/middleeast/17arab.html:f8522]NYTimes article[/url:f8522][/quote:f8522]


Ninty is not really anti America.... and to me NO side really has the moral high-ground in this conflict. BOTh sides are guilty of over reacting to events.

It's not like Israel hasn't done anything to stir the pot in the middle east, Ace.

I'm anti oppression, imperialism and zionist. I'm a traditional conservative. My bible is the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Go figure, when the rest of the world is flying out their people from the Middle East the Brits decide to do another dunkirk & take them out by sea... the_finger:

I think that as long as Israel leaves after they kick the shit out of Hezbollah, they have a right to retaliate. The same with Hamas. Now that Hamas is in effect, a governing body, they have to take responsibility for what their factions do. One govt attacking another is an act of war. Israel may act heavy handed in many situations like shooting 32 hellfires down a street to knock out 1 kabob cart, but i think they have shown more restraint in this campaign than in previous ones. I think its sad that the population has to get caught up in this shit, but its not like this hasnt happened before. Also, arent these populations among the ones that dance and celebrate everytime fucked up shit happens? I'm more worried about how this conflict will spread out....

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/200 ... 94084.html

"Even more importantly, Israel wants to send a strong message to all its enemies, especially Iran, that the consequences of attacking the Jewish state will be unbearable."

Taunting Iran?

"European-led efforts to achieve a cease-fire appear unlikely to succeed in the near term because Israel's main ally, the United States, has given Israel a tacit green light to proceed and because Israel sees this as a decisive, make-or-break battle in its fight against radical Islamists out to destroy it."

Is it because Hezbollah are terrorists?

Israel plans to get out of Lebanon in a few weeks. If it lasts longer than a few months than I am sure another nation might get involved... and so on.

[quote="al jazeera":24e28]Hezbollah fire more than 100 missiles into Israel. One Israeli is killed in the town of Nahariya.[/quote:24e28]
the hell are they firing? aluminum tubes filled with yellow cake or something..