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Arkan 02-18-2007 08:32 PM

iPod
 
Finally broke down and purchased the 8g nano. Now i gotta fuck with that shit ass iTunes software.

Wish there was an easier way to "click and drop" my MP3's in the nano.

Oh, what are some "must have" accessories? I saw a nice rugged rubber case for it that i'll get. Next would be some sort of FM transmitter so i can use it in the car.

TGB! 02-18-2007 08:40 PM

The thing that allows you to play the music through your car. Thats it. Fuck the iPod. As soon as MS gets off its fucking ass, and releases a patch that allows the ZUNE to be used as a portable HardDrive, Im ditching mine and grabbing one of theirs. The UI is better, the software is better, and the share function has laid some serious groundwork for what next-gen mp3 players MUST have.

At this point using the iPod is like sleeping w/ the fat chick in college - you dont want to, but shit everyones gotta fuck.

Coleman 02-18-2007 08:44 PM

[quote="TGB!":52fea]The thing that allows you to play the music through your car. Thats it. Fuck the iPod. As soon as MS gets off its fucking ass, and releases a patch that allows the ZUNE to be used as a portable HardDrive, Im ditching mine and grabbing one of theirs. The UI is better, the software is better, and the share function has laid some serious groundwork for what next-gen mp3 players MUST have.

At this point using the iPod is like sleeping w/ the fat chick in college - you dont want to, but shit everyones gotta fuck.
[/quote:52fea]smart guy

Sniper101 02-18-2007 09:03 PM

Winamp is a nice music player and the newest version come equipped with a drag and drop function for the iPod

[DAS REICH] Blitz 02-18-2007 09:08 PM

iTunes is crap

Coleman 02-18-2007 09:26 PM

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":33187]iTunes is crap[/quote:33187]My music tech professor sucks itunes' dick real hard. He brags about how it does all of this cool stuff like "MAKING PLAYLISTS OMG!!!". I sometimes broadcast that class over stickam lol and people agree with me that he's a bit nuts.

TGB! 02-18-2007 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper101
Winamp is a nice music player and the newest version come equipped with a drag and drop function for the iPod

Except it doesnt work with the video iPods - and if you use it, itll turn all your videos into "songs" and render them unplayable. iTunes is seriously shit - I hate it. . .constantly updating, even though I dont want it to. And I dont give a damn about gapless playback since Im not an impatient prick like that.

Haha - just cause I know the iPod is shit. . .dont mean im buying stock in Zen/Creative. . .hoo hoo. . .youre not gonna get me there Mr. Coleman.

Nyck 02-18-2007 09:39 PM

I have a sandisk its pwn

Arkan 02-18-2007 09:47 PM

TGB, i agree that iTunes can suck my ass hence the reason for the long holdout for getting an iPod. I'll have to give winamp a shot since the only thing you can put on the nano is music (i think) All i want is an MP3 player that can EASILY load songs......thats it !! I went with the nano over the 30g iPod because of "flash memory". Seems alot less can go wrong with the nano as opposed to having a lil' harddrive. I hope i like this $275 toy.

Coleman 02-18-2007 09:54 PM

[quote="TGB!":c5fb9]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper101
Winamp is a nice music player and the newest version come equipped with a drag and drop function for the iPod

Except it doesnt work with the video iPods - and if you use it, itll turn all your videos into "songs" and render them unplayable. iTunes is seriously shit - I hate it. . .constantly updating, even though I dont want it to. And I dont give a damn about gapless playback since Im not an impatient prick like that.

Haha - just cause I know the iPod is shit. . .dont mean im buying stock in Zen/Creative. . .hoo hoo. . .youre not gonna get me there Mr. Coleman.
[/quote:c5fb9]youd be an idiot if you would buy shares of creative just for their mp3 players lol. Ipod owns the market. If I were to get another player, i'd probably get a Zune. My brother upgraded from his iRiver (great player that last a long time with great audio quality) to the zune and it's f'in awesome.

Chronic Diarrhea 02-18-2007 10:18 PM

[quote=Coleman]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "[DAS REICH
Blitz":c782e]iTunes is crap

My music tech professor sucks itunes' dick real hard. He brags about how it does all of this cool stuff like "MAKING PLAYLISTS OMG!!!". I sometimes broadcast that class over stickam lol and people agree with me that he's a bit nuts.[/quote:c782e]

I think Windows 3.1 had a playlist feature somewhere lol.

Milla 02-18-2007 11:28 PM

[quote="TGB!":6fcf8]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper101
Winamp is a nice music player and the newest version come equipped with a drag and drop function for the iPod

Except it doesnt work with the video iPods - and if you use it, itll turn all your videos into "songs" and render them unplayable. iTunes is seriously shit - I hate it. . .constantly updating, even though I dont want it to. And I dont give a damn about gapless playback since Im not an impatient prick like that.

Haha - just cause I know the iPod is shit. . .dont mean im buying stock in Zen/Creative. . .hoo hoo. . .youre not gonna get me there Mr. Coleman.
[/quote:6fcf8]

I dont understand how you have so many problems with itunes, ive been using it for 2 years now without a problem....ever. I can easily say that i really like iTunes and how easy it is to use.

I would get a Zune, but i would defiantly wait until MS releases an updated version of it. Its pretty quirky, and at the moment i would put the iPod above it. So until MS makes a new Zune or unfucks the current one, my iPod is my mp3 player of choice. maybe in a few years i'll get a Zune or something else. I also like the ease of the iPod interface, one scroll wheel, and a middle button.

c312 02-18-2007 11:54 PM

I have a zune and I love it. I recently got a program that allows me to convert DVDs to .wmv files so I can watch movies on the Zune. So far, it has worked great for me. The media software is kinda sluggish at times, but other than that I have no complaints.

Arkan 02-19-2007 12:15 AM

Ok, knew this shit would happen. Having a tough go at adding music to the iPod via Winamp. Sniper, have any ideas?

jujumantb 02-19-2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
My brother upgraded from his iRiver (great player that last a long time with great audio quality)

ive owned two irivers, the iHP120 and currently the H10. my first iHP120 lasted about 6 months before it just stopped playing songs.. their warranty was nice though, got a new one for free. this one worked fine for about another 6 months before the main joystick-like button stopped working unless you had the perfect touch.. luckily that one got stolen soon after and i upgraded to the newer H10 which will decide to shut down randomly or freeze up even with the latest updates.. after 3 units from them which havent lasted 6 months.. my next mp3 player will likely not be with them. cool players though, the iHP120 had an optical output eek: never used it, but still cool.

anti 02-19-2007 01:05 AM

plug in ipod.
itunes comes up.
i drag songs and drop into itunes.
unplug ipod.

WHOALLY FUCK THAT'S HARD!

Arkan 02-19-2007 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti
plug in ipod.
itunes comes up.
i drag songs and drop into itunes.
unplug ipod.

WHOALLY FUCK THAT'S HARD!

That wasn't the question. I'm trying to use Winamp instead but thanks for that walk through. oOo:

[DAS REICH] Blitz 02-19-2007 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkan
Quote:

Originally Posted by anti
plug in ipod.
itunes comes up.
i drag songs and drop into itunes.
unplug ipod.

WHOALLY FUCK THAT'S HARD!

That wasn't the question. I'm trying to use Winamp instead but thanks for that walk through. oOo:

pwned.
Winamp is good for playing the actual music while on ur computer, IDK why u dont wanna use itunes for updating though..

Arkan 02-19-2007 01:22 AM

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":36ddb]Winamp is good for playing the actual music while on ur computer, IDK why u dont wanna use itunes for updating though..[/quote:36ddb]

Because ideally, i'd like to find a program where you could just "copy & paste" songs to your iPod like you would do in windows explorer. Also, since i use Winamp everytime i log on my comp, i figured i'd try that.

anti 02-19-2007 01:36 AM

doublepost like woah

anti 02-19-2007 01:39 AM

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":a00ab]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkan
Quote:

Originally Posted by anti
plug in ipod.
itunes comes up.
i drag songs and drop into itunes.
unplug ipod.

WHOALLY FUCK THAT'S HARD!

That wasn't the question. I'm trying to use Winamp instead but thanks for that walk through. oOo:

pwned.[/quote:a00ab]

but why use winamp? you can drag and drop with itunes easily as what my post was intending. besides, there's a whole bunch of shit on google to tell you how to do it.

blitz oOo:

Arkan 02-19-2007 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti
but why use winamp? you can drag and drop with itunes easily?

blitz oOo:

Ok, fair enough. Last year, a girl i knew purchased the shuffle and gave it to me to load some songs on for her. I had to install iTunes just to load up the shuffle. I thought it was a pain in the ass then because i simply wanted to drop a few mp3's in there without needing to install the software and making playlists and all that shit.

As far as winamp, I've been using it as long as i can remember for my onboard mp3 player and felt it would be easier using something i'm used to. I'll fuck around with iTunes and winamp then decide which is easier for me.

anti 02-19-2007 02:03 AM

i just installed it, manually managed all my playlist (which means i ignored any of that shit), plugged in ipod and it showed up. simply clicked ipod, and dragged my music in from it's respected folder. i do use winamp though as my means to play music. i believe you can just simply open it's media library with th eipod connected, or something. google knows, he always knows.

Arkan 02-19-2007 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti
i just installed it, manually managed all my playlist (which means i ignored any of that shit), plugged in ipod and it showed up. simply clicked ipod, and dragged my music in from it's respected folder. i do use winamp though as my means to play music. i believe you can just simply open it's media library with th eipod connected, or something. google knows, he always knows.

Thanks for the advice. I'll be screwing with it for the next few days.

mr.miyagi 02-19-2007 06:52 AM

My Creative Zen M Vision 30 gb pisses all over ipods, I fucking love it!

Crystal clear video, crisp audio, quality software, etc... no complaints whatsoever rock:

geRV 02-19-2007 07:10 AM

Id prefer any mp3 player that doesn't need to have software to have songs loaded onto it. If they show up as a removable disk you should just be able to drag and drop into it, not the case with ipods or a lot of other mp3 players for some reason though.

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.

Coleman 02-19-2007 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Id prefer any mp3 player that doesn't need to have software to have songs loaded onto it. If they show up as a removable disk you should just be able to drag and drop into it, not the case with ipods or a lot of other mp3 players for some reason though.

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.

do high percentage of mp3 owners in Europe own ipods? I'd say from just a 'look' at the market, they have about 75% of the American market.

geRV 02-19-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Id prefer any mp3 player that doesn't need to have software to have songs loaded onto it. If they show up as a removable disk you should just be able to drag and drop into it, not the case with ipods or a lot of other mp3 players for some reason though.

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.

do high percentage of mp3 owners in Europe own ipods? I'd say from just a 'look' at the market, they have about 75% of the American market.


Well they seem to be flavour of the month for no other reason than theyre a fashion accessory. I know a few people with them, but anytime im in town i see everything but ipods, for people in most of the shopping centres that is at least. It seems though that the average parent has caught onto the ipod name, thus every mp3 player on the market is an ipod, same as the way back in the 80's every gaming system to a parent was a nintendo.

Don't really see the attraction to them myself, can't say they do anything more than any other generic mp3 player on the market. Course you get the apple zealots defending them tooth and nail because its one of god Jobs creations. rolleyes:

Mr.Buttocks 02-19-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by geRV

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.


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[DAS REICH] Blitz 02-19-2007 01:15 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":0914a]
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.


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anti 02-19-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by geRV
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by geRV
Id prefer any mp3 player that doesn't need to have software to have songs loaded onto it. If they show up as a removable disk you should just be able to drag and drop into it, not the case with ipods or a lot of other mp3 players for some reason though.

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.

do high percentage of mp3 owners in Europe own ipods? I'd say from just a 'look' at the market, they have about 75% of the American market.


Well they seem to be flavour of the month for no other reason than theyre a fashion accessory. I know a few people with them, but anytime im in town i see everything but ipods, for people in most of the shopping centres that is at least. It seems though that the average parent has caught onto the ipod name, thus every mp3 player on the market is an ipod, same as the way back in the 80's every gaming system to a parent was a nintendo.

Don't really see the attraction to them myself, can't say they do anything more than any other generic mp3 player on the market. Course you get the apple zealots defending them tooth and nail because its one of god Jobs creations. rolleyes:

it's true they've become a fashion statement, but it's also true that hating them has become a fashion itself. when the mini came out and the older ipods, they were damn fine mp3 players for their time and nothing on the market really compared that i can remember. i've still got my mini from way back and i really don't have a single complaint towards it. interface is slick and clean, easy to use. i don't even take it out of my pocket while i switch songs, fast forward etc. its a great size and has held up the test of time.

how many times has this ipod vs. world discussion occured on this forum?

c312 02-19-2007 02:03 PM

Arkan, I know what you mean about iTunes. I used to despise it. I was a winamp user too but then I actually used Itunes and after you get used to it and learn how to use it, it really is a great media player. For me, it was just getting over the initial stage of not being familiar with it.

My old Dell had a system sort of like what you guys are saying. I would open it like a harddrive and drag files from my computer onto it like copying/pasting files. After doing that, I gotta say I like the way iTunes syncs. Zune is the same or a very similar way. The Dell's method took a long time and I had to remember all the locations of what I wanted to sync and it was harder to keep track of what I had and hadn't synced.

If you want to drag and drop, I would recommend turning off automatic syncing in iTunes. Then you can drag and drop an artist/song/album within iTunes. This is what I do with Zune because I can't stand the automatic sync doing stuff I don't want it to do.

jujumantb 02-19-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Id prefer any mp3 player that doesn't need to have software to have songs loaded onto it. If they show up as a removable disk you should just be able to drag and drop into it, not the case with ipods or a lot of other mp3 players for some reason though.

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.

it would be nice for that to be an OPTION, but there are alot of advantages in having software. You can have the software automatically sync up new additions you make on your computer to the player... you can make 'playlists' from the computer which 'taps' into the songs already on the player so you dont have a bunch of duplicates... you have support for album art etc.. there are more features i use too, but actually my iriver can do all those things using windows media player so its pretty nice.

geRV 02-19-2007 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by anti
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Originally Posted by geRV
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Originally Posted by Coleman
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Id prefer any mp3 player that doesn't need to have software to have songs loaded onto it. If they show up as a removable disk you should just be able to drag and drop into it, not the case with ipods or a lot of other mp3 players for some reason though.

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.

do high percentage of mp3 owners in Europe own ipods? I'd say from just a 'look' at the market, they have about 75% of the American market.


Well they seem to be flavour of the month for no other reason than theyre a fashion accessory. I know a few people with them, but anytime im in town i see everything but ipods, for people in most of the shopping centres that is at least. It seems though that the average parent has caught onto the ipod name, thus every mp3 player on the market is an ipod, same as the way back in the 80's every gaming system to a parent was a nintendo.

Don't really see the attraction to them myself, can't say they do anything more than any other generic mp3 player on the market. Course you get the apple zealots defending them tooth and nail because its one of god Jobs creations. rolleyes:

it's true they've become a fashion statement, but it's also true that hating them has become a fashion itself. when the mini came out and the older ipods, they were damn fine mp3 players for their time and nothing on the market really compared that i can remember. i've still got my mini from way back and i really don't have a single complaint towards it. interface is slick and clean, easy to use. i don't even take it out of my pocket while i switch songs, fast forward etc. its a great size and has held up the test of time.

how many times has this ipod vs. world discussion occured on this forum?

Not a matter of hating them for the sake of it, its a matter of they do fuck all different from any other mp3 player yet theyre considered better for the simple reason theyre made by apple. Since when was apple the all knowing authority on what makes an mp3 player good? (they were practically bust in 1997 till ms bailed them out so it shows how good their business strategy was then). There were mp3 players on the market well before the ipod that worked just as well, just seemed like all the trend whores jumped on apples dick as soon as the ipod appeared and theyre now the be all end all of portable music for no good reason.

ipod vs world part 45 coming to a forum near you SOON

anti 02-19-2007 04:58 PM

i looked around alot before i bought my ipod and i didn't see anything that compared to it. they were considered better and in a way still are for their size, streamline menu's and functionality (keep in mind this is awhile back, i can't say such for now because i don't keep up with what's coming out now a days). i dont know a single person that bought one because it's an apple. for most, the namebrand has nothing to do with it (i doubt that slut clubbing everynight cares what namebran her mp3 player is). it's just ipods were considered to be better because well, they were awhile back which secured their popularity and their great business has been credited to that ever since. sure i'm going to jump on ipods dick because i love my mini, i loved it at the time and i still do. i still haven't used an mp3 player that has compared to it.

Tripper 02-19-2007 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by anti
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Originally Posted by geRV
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Originally Posted by Coleman
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Id prefer any mp3 player that doesn't need to have software to have songs loaded onto it. If they show up as a removable disk you should just be able to drag and drop into it, not the case with ipods or a lot of other mp3 players for some reason though.

I just use my ericsson for all that shit anyway.

do high percentage of mp3 owners in Europe own ipods? I'd say from just a 'look' at the market, they have about 75% of the American market.


Well they seem to be flavour of the month for no other reason than theyre a fashion accessory. I know a few people with them, but anytime im in town i see everything but ipods, for people in most of the shopping centres that is at least. It seems though that the average parent has caught onto the ipod name, thus every mp3 player on the market is an ipod, same as the way back in the 80's every gaming system to a parent was a nintendo.

Don't really see the attraction to them myself, can't say they do anything more than any other generic mp3 player on the market. Course you get the apple zealots defending them tooth and nail because its one of god Jobs creations. rolleyes:

it's true they've become a fashion statement, but it's also true that hating them has become a fashion itself. when the mini came out and the older ipods, they were damn fine mp3 players for their time and nothing on the market really compared that i can remember. i've still got my mini from way back and i really don't have a single complaint towards it. interface is slick and clean, easy to use. i don't even take it out of my pocket while i switch songs, fast forward etc. its a great size and has held up the test of time.

how many times has this ipod vs. world discussion occured on this forum?

I agree entirely.

anti 02-19-2007 05:06 PM

leave it at this; ipods are overhyped but you can't deny they are good mp3 players and their success has always been attributed to that.

Short Hand 02-19-2007 05:14 PM

I would have to disagree. I would attribute the "early" success of the ipod at first to its revolutionary features YES. BUT it's long term success is due to its brilliant marketing campaign. Apple has done a fantastic job with product placement, and making this thing a symbol of culture to youth. The Andy Warhol commercials were rediculous ;)

anti 02-19-2007 05:30 PM

yeah you're right. i just have a hard time beliving the fact that marketing campaigns work to such a large affect.

Arkan 02-19-2007 06:40 PM

To be honest, what steered me to the iPod vs the others was the support and aftermarket world. There are TONS of add-ons for the iPod and a few forums.


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