And you guy's diss the rocket launcher! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Hahahahaha...
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well aren't you the man...

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I'm with ya, I love the Bazooka!!

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People rag on the rockets for many valid reasons. For instance it will lag down a server(depending how good it is), but I personaly believe that it doesn't take any skill to blast a rockets into someone. Easy way to win a firefight. This is why I believe that people who use them are disappointed that they seem to suck at playing online and switch to the rockets to make up for their lack of skill.

Another real good argument against using rockets is when FF is on. Last night I was on a server where there where a few people using rockets(on both sides), but evertime I closed in on an enemy and was about to take him out, some asshole from my own team would blast in a rocket and take BOTH of us out. Sure, they can type sorry, and did MANY times, but the truth is they fucked up the game for me and the rest of us who where trying to play a good game.

This is why I and many good hosts are now using the no-rocket mod. You twits who use them can select it and run around with them, but there is no ammo for you to ruin the game with.

Just my humble opion...not yours...G'night

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They who use rockets in online,have no TRUE skill at all..

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ydiss:
Nice kill, Spiewalk. Always nice to get a nice big fat multi-frag.

It doesn't really make the bazooka a good weapon, though, it just means you got lucky to have 5 targets all together at once at the same time and got a clean shot in.

But, cool screeny anyway.

Sgt Wolf... Where did you read that bazookas lag servers? This simply isn't true.

Bazookas are annoying, but they add a little variety and I don't personaly think they ruin normal games at all (I can see why they would get old fast on FF servers, though).

I've seen someone use the bazooka as his primary weapon and he was actually quite skillful and had one of the highest scores consistently. He rarely killed himself and in my opinion justified the bazooka well.

He is a rarity, though.

But for someone to get good at any weapon to the extent that they can consistently win rounds with it requires at least some skill and they deserve to use it.

I've always said that it isn't the weapon that wins rounds it's the skill of the players behind them.

Back to Spiewalk, with this in mind, your 5 kill with the rpg must have made you feel good but it doesn't make you skillful, and it doesn't make the gun any better. If you could do that consistently then perhaps it would convince players of that. Don't expect to convince people on a forum using screenshots, though.

5 kills in one shot is no different from 5 kills with 5 shots. It's still 5 kills. In fact, if you think about it...

Which is likely to require more skill? 5 kills with 5 shots, or 5 kills with one?

5 shots mean you have to aim 5 times. 1 shot means you only have to get it right once, and the splash damage will do the rest for you.

That is the up-side of bazookas (from the user's point of view). The downsides are very clear, and those who choose to use them all the time should be aware of both. I think the downsides outweigh the upsides, which is why I don't bother using it.

Sadly, the majority of players who use the rpg are not aware of the downsides to upsides ratio. But that's not our loss, is it?

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I didn't read it anywhere, it's just from observing what happens to a server when they start using those rockets. It's true they won't have much effect on a really good and fast server, but I've been on some that are borderline and when those goofs start using those rockets performance goes in the toilet. The game would have been fine otherwise.



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rockets arent as bad as having a large group of STG-44s all firing in one small area at once.

Agreed.

I disabled the bazooka long time ago on our servers. No gameplay and skills are required at all when using that.



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rockets are a false skill meaning all you really need to know is where the trigger is. they're nice if used properly, for example, to take out a squad pinning your buddies down, but are seriously lame when someone runs through the halls and shoots you in the face at point blank range killing you both.

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Nice kill, Spiewalk. Always nice to get a nice big fat multi-frag.

It doesn't really make the bazooka a good weapon, though, it just means you got lucky to have 5 targets all together at once at the same time and got a clean shot in.

But, cool screeny anyway.

Sgt Wolf... Where did you read that bazookas lag servers? This simply isn't true.

Bazookas are annoying, but they add a little variety and I don't personaly think they ruin normal games at all (I can see why they would get old fast on FF servers, though).

I've seen someone use the bazooka as his primary weapon and he was actually quite skillful and had one of the highest scores consistently. He rarely killed himself and in my opinion justified the bazooka well.

He is a rarity, though.

But for someone to get good at any weapon to the extent that they can consistently win rounds with it requires at least some skill and they deserve to use it.

I've always said that it isn't the weapon that wins rounds it's the skill of the players behind them.

Back to Spiewalk, with this in mind, your 5 kill with the rpg must have made you feel good but it doesn't make you skillful, and it doesn't make the gun any better. If you could do that consistently then perhaps it would convince players of that. Don't expect to convince people on a forum using screenshots, though.

5 kills in one shot is no different from 5 kills with 5 shots. It's still 5 kills. In fact, if you think about it...

Which is likely to require more skill? 5 kills with 5 shots, or 5 kills with one?

5 shots mean you have to aim 5 times. 1 shot means you only have to get it right once, and the splash damage will do the rest for you.

That is the up-side of bazookas (from the user's point of view). The downsides are very clear, and those who choose to use them all the time should be aware of both. I think the downsides outweigh the upsides, which is why I don't bother using it.

Sadly, the majority of players who use the rpg are not aware of the downsides to upsides ratio. But that's not our loss, is it?

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[This message has been edited by Ydiss (edited February 25, 2002).]

Hey Spiewalk.....looks like it's only 3 kills, not 5. I only see three kills listed in a row then i see "lonewolf" dying again at respawn. Is that what happened?

[This message has been edited by Arkan (edited February 25, 2002).]

Also, Arkan is right. That isn't a 5 kill at all.

Lol, you are an odd one, Spiewalk. You can't kill one person two times in one shot.

I'm amazed I missed that, but I don't suspect people at first sight. I certainly suspect you now, though http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif Someone who boasts about something and lies is generally trying to cover up their insecurities.

Made yerself look a bit of an idiot (again), haven't you?

[This message has been edited by Ydiss (edited February 25, 2002).]

i never noticed that lol. ive seen clones tho so who knows.

Strikor, I doubt it's a clone.

If it was a true 5 kill the kills would all be on the screen at once and no gaps. As you can see his 3 kill has other kills by other people either side of it.

A single rocket kill would generally flood the screen with Spiewalk's kills, but it hasn't.

This looks more like a 2 kill with one rocket, followed shortly after by a 3 kill.

Still a nice feat in itself, but nothing to be proud of (especially if it's DM, which I'd presume it was). And certainly no reason to lie about.

true i guess the kills do stay up on the screen awhile. i never paid much attention to them.

"[WaffenSS]_spiewalk was machine-gunned by magic309 in the lower torso"

"You died huhuhhuhhu"
"shutup Butthead"

[This message has been edited by CAPT._CAVEMANN (edited February 25, 2002).]

It's not that they stay up on the screen for a while (in fact, in DM games the kills remain up there for a very short time before being shunted off by other kills).

It's just that if you kill 5 players in one shot (or grenade) you will see 5 consecutive kills by you on the top of the screen. It shouldn't be segregated by other players' kills like Spiewalk's is in his screenshot.

It could technically happen. If someone died at precisely the right time in between the server registering the death of two of your 5 kills, then perhaps that would be up there too. We're talking about microseconds here, though.

But, it wouldn't happen as clearly and blatently as it has in the screenshot.

And anyway, this is presuming that two players have the name Lonewolf, that SenorSexy managed to kill one of the other 5 kill victims exactly in between those 5 kills and also die to the same rocket in the same instant, and that magic fellow respawned almost instantly and killed Spiewalk.

All in the period of about 500 milliseconds.

That is unless there is a magic clone, too.

Anyone want to buy a lottery ticket while this kind of freak chance is occuring?

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[This message has been edited by Ydiss (edited February 25, 2002).]

oh i see what youre saying. im a little slow i dont play DM much

I just edited my last post. If you examine the kills in his screenshot it shows that it would be impossible to be a 5 kill.

SenorSexy would have to have killed one of the victims of the '5 kill' (Rainman) in exactly the same instant that he died to Spiewalk's 'single rocket'.

Impossible, I'm afraid.

Unless this server has 3 clones... 2 Rainmans, 2 Lonewolfs and 2 magics...

Spiewalk, why lie then prove yourself wrong in the same post?

maybe its one of those technicalities. one rocket (launcher) 5 kills

There is skill in using the Rocket Launcher, but you have to clearly show that you aren't killing your self, simply to get one guy.

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Awwwwww man.. guys look, I was just messin around with the bazoka and I saw all 5 dudes standing togther so I launched the bazoka. They all died but it was such a large game where so many kills were already being registerd one after the other is didn't show all 5. Trust me guy's I didn't edit that pic in anyway I just thought i'd show you guy's how much of a fluke that shot was. I'm not trying to show that i'm skilled in using the bazoka or anything. Thanx for totally over analyzing my post thu. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

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Oh and btw.. I got my ass gunned down right after as you can see...

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Rockets are for those that cant aim propertly, its as easy and simple as that.
I like to go for the Tommy Gun or Garand Rifle. Thats weapons! Not Bazookas.

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I have found that in DM Games most of the people that use the Zookas are of a lower skill level, mabee I just havnt seen anyone good use it. But I swear If I see anyone using them in a game they become my STG Fodder. The only thing I can complain about the Rockets are there lack of realism. In a real life situation you would have a partner, so in essence a 2 man "anti-tank" squad. Not a one man "quake syle" rocket snipers. I just dont see how one dude can run around with a bazooka and 6 extra rounds (where do youput em??) and still be able to shoot it standing up (witch should knock you on your ass) and reload it in less than 5 seconds, a 2 man team would be lucky to reload in 5 seconds. Well anyway there is no use in whining so I am just stating fact. So bring on the rockets in MP I am ready to take you guys out!

Have you guys ever tryed playing a realism server? I thought the Thompson was tha best too untill I tryed them on a CKR server, now I use the M1 or BAR, but you run hella slow wit it. The thompson is still a viable weapon you just gotta be kinda close, no more 100 yard acuracy with the SMG's.

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Im goin sniper huntin 2day............where is my KAR98K,

i killed 7 maybe 6 , cant remember teammates in OMAHA when my team of Axis were defusing the bomb i tossed a couple of grenades at their feet ahahha it was so funny, we lost because the bomb blew up and they all died too beacue it was all the fault of me the treasoness teammate lol, they were mad

Desert Eagle... True, you can have your kills split by other kills (I actually said that in one of my posts) but I actually said that if this were to be the case in this particular picture then the person who was killed in between his '5-kill' was actually one of the last 3 he killed.

This proves that the time between the SenorSexy kill was long enough to allow the player to respawn and die to Spiewalk's 2nd zooka shot.

It's fairly clear, really. That and the fact that he clearly kills Lonewolf two times.

It wasn't you that I saw playing, btw, 'cos you're American and this fellow was from the UK.

Spiewalk. Shh.

The Guy who killed two probably has two computers running and led the two players he was controlling into the same spot the launched a rocket.

Spiewalk, no real need to analyse it when it clearly shows you killed Lonewolf two times in your supposed 5 kills.

Also, it shows that one of those kills in between your '5 kill' (SenorSexy) would have had to have killed one of your 5 kills at exactly the same time as you did.

Sorry, mate, it's impossible. Stop trying to cover it up.

No one said you edited the pic, 'cos your pic actually disproves you anyway.

As for rpgs, or any gun for that matter, causing lag on a server in large quantities... I'll take your word for it if you say you've witnessed it yourself, but weapon fire won't produce enough packets to cause any considerable lag in any game.

If the servers you saw this on weren't dedicated/T1+ then it's no wonder they were lagging. They'd be lagging simply because you have too many people on them, most likely. The fact they use rpgs or pistols or sniper rifles won't add any lag.

Rpgs would have slightly more trajectory data, I suppose, but we're talking about bits here. The lag you experience would more likely be graphicaly based, rather than ping.

You might be right, though, I've never really noticed it myself.

HECK!, i can call 10 of my friends, change their names in the server and then tell them to stay together so that i could blow them with the bazooka and BOOM!....look at me....10, 20, 30 people with one rocket. By the way, i wasnt accusing him. I am just saying that people can just call friends and do a favors and such.

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Death Strike You are right but he should'nt be gloating online about something that's not true.

how are you gonna convince 10 to 30 people to stand in one spot without shooting eachother let alone convince 5. are you gonna offer them candy?

just jokin dude cheers

You guy's are missing the point again, 1 SHOT, NOT 2 SHOTS, ONE ZOOKA 5 KILLS!! No editing, no messin around, no tryin to impress you guy's, nothing!!! It was just me messin around with zooka and bein stupid and happend to kill 5 people. ONE SHOT!!, sheeeeeeeeeesh...

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by [spiewalk]:
Ydiss, you're a geek, i'm not "covering" up anything infact trying to impress you or anyone else on this board is the last priority I have.

It is true, i've never actually seen anything more then 3 kills by one person register on the top. I asume 2015 thought that showing them on the left hand side would be enough but I guess they underestimated the amount of retards that would be playing the game and questioning it's realism. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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i must agree with him
plus i wanted my 80th post

[This message has been edited by CAPT._CAVEMANN (edited February 27, 2002).]

500 posts to get captain oh jeez

Looks more like 2 rockets 5 kills to me. Sometimes those white "you killed" messages stay up a little while after you kill them.

C'mon Spiewalk, you heard Ydiss!....

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Ydiss,

About frags showing up all in a row in the kills section...I've killed 6 people with one grenade once in V2 Rocket Facility and it showed as me killing 3 then someone else's kill and then my other 3. In the split second in between my kills, someone else killed someone and separated my kills. I'm not saying that this is what happened in spiewalk's case, but it is possible to have the kills separated and not bunched up like you said.

And BTW, that skilled rocket user that consistently got high scores was probably me. People always rag on the rocket launcher saying that it takes no skill to operate but I have spent a lot of time honing my skills and have made it a legitimate weapon. It is difficult to aim while running from a distance but I have gotten much better at it. I only use the weapon when I am either really tired or really bored but I can use it very effectively. Even to the point where everyone else starts using them because they are so frustrated.

I do understand that there are some idiots out there that just shoot others at point blank and THAT does not take skill. But to say that everyone uses that weapon the same way is pretty pretentious.

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i have sniped a guy that has sniped me at the same time. we took eachother out, dont say its impossible to to have yourself killed by someone you killed. the zooka, you can watch and wait for it to hit a target, what if he was gunned from a distance before the zooka exploded? And I always go around cloning my name and calling myself gay or saying something stupid and then i go back to my real name.

I only read the first 2 pages of posts.

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