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TGB! 03-01-2007 07:42 PM

XBOX360: The Threadening!
 
Yea yea. But appearantly (and for some fucking time) - the damn things been hackable. For a larf I trolled Craigslist this morning, and saw MODDED XBOX360 - and immediately thought. . .game on.

My questions are thus:

I dont have an HDTV - yet. Will gaming look like shit on my regular big screen TV? I plan on getting that cheap 900 dollar SAMSUNG thats on AMAZON for the time being, but I dont want text and shit to be garbled on my regular setup. I originally saw the XBOX360 in action at a friends house, playing Gears Of War - and I swear I got an erection (or that may have been from his 18 yr old sister - I dont know) on his HDTV. . .I almost went into epileptic shock when I saw the damn thing in action. We also played BURNOUT - and while it looked good on the PS2. . .man - again, epileptic shock.

What the fuck is XBOXLIVE about? Do I need this shit to play games online (seems - for now - youre able to with Yar-Matey! games. . .) - and how much is it?

Is the unit automatically wireless - or do I need an adapter?

So far GOW and GRAW (or I guess GRAW2 since it comes out next week) are at the top of my ::cough::purchase::cough:: list. So is OBLIVION (lost my PC game save. . .120 hours gone). And DEAD RISING (even though Zombies scare the shit out of me). Also (in no particular order): MASS EFFECT (BioWare guys. . .KOTOR), BLUE DRAGON, and uhm. . .Rainbow 6. What else is there?

Can you play games off the hard drive? Or a better question - what the hell is the HD for - other than storing demos and music and shit?

Alot of these games say "co-op" (like GRAW2 has 16 player co-op?) - does this mean you can play ONLINE co-op? I think I mightve answered my own question. . .since 16 players off-lines sounds kinda retarded. But what about 2-player co-op - are you able to play that online as well - speaking mostly about GOW.

What accessories are needed?

snipes 03-01-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Im getting an XBOX360.
 
No it won't look like shit, just not as sharp. It won't be like playing Xbox 1 on the thing.

And yeah you need Xbox Live to play most games online.. sometimes they have free weekends and shit, but not too often. I think its about $40? per year. Your headset and stuff (as well as a free month, I think) should come with your 360.

The controllers are wireless.. don't know about the 360 itself though.

With the HD, yeah you can download games off the marketplace (like Geometry Wars or wtf), emulators to make it compatible with Xbox.

It should say on the box whether or not you can play online co-op. And yeah, GOW has that.

And it should come with all the accesories you need, as long as you buy the premium.

geRV 03-01-2007 09:02 PM

Only reason you're getting it is because you can dload games for it? oOo:


Whatever happened to buying a console because it had the games you wanted, nowadays people seem to flock to the console thats easily hacked so they dont have to buy any games. annoy: Hello dreamcast and we all know how that went, hacking plus the sony bullshit hype machine of their supercomputer ps2 (lmao) killed that off rightly even though it was a better machine.


To answer some questions:

Accessory wise you're better off getting the play and charge kit, comes with a lithium ion battery pack and a connector so you can use it as a corded joypad to charge it and wireless when its charged.

Hard drives for demos, firmware updates, music, vids etc.

Comes with xbox live silver which means you can dload demos and vids etc, to play games online you need a gold accoutn which costs extra. You usualy get a 1 month gold trial with a new account anyway.

Wireless you need an adaptor thats sold seperatly, the console comes with an ethernet cable to hook it up to a router.

Make sure you get the premium console and not the core version.

Far as im aware it looks ok on sdtv, if you have an lcd monitor you can hook it upto that with a seperate vga cable.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 03-01-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Whatever happened to buying a console because it had the games you wanted, nowadays people seem to flock to the console thats easily hacked so they dont have to buy any games. annoy: Hello dreamcast and we all know how that went, hacking plus the sony bullshit hype machine of their supercomputer ps2 (lmao) killed that off rightly even though it was a better machine.

Console games, within the past couple of years, are beginning to SUCK. They are all the same, with the same bugs, with the publishers not giving a dam what the consumers want. Certain companies exist only to make shitty games with BIG NAMES, others to capitalize on the prestige and history of their past games, and the small minority that actually create good games.

geRV 03-01-2007 09:14 PM

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":4017f]
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Whatever happened to buying a console because it had the games you wanted, nowadays people seem to flock to the console thats easily hacked so they dont have to buy any games. annoy: Hello dreamcast and we all know how that went, hacking plus the sony bullshit hype machine of their supercomputer ps2 (lmao) killed that off rightly even though it was a better machine.

Console games, within the past couple of years, are beginning to SUCK. They are all the same, with the same bugs, with the publishers not giving a dam what the consumers want. Certain companies exist only to make shitty games with BIG NAMES, others to capitalize on the prestige and history of their past games, and the small minority that actually create good games.[/quote:4017f]

What makes that any different from pc games though? Games have always been that way and will continue to be that way. Even back as far as the atari 2600 that was the way things worked.

Short Hand 03-01-2007 09:21 PM

porn on HD is brilliant.

geRV 03-01-2007 09:23 PM

[quote="Short Hand":e9e77]porn on HD is brilliant.[/quote:e9e77]

Well considering how hd movies you can see all the blemishes on actors faces making them look their age i dont see how hd porn would be any good if it had the same effect.

Nyck 03-01-2007 09:23 PM

wireless adapter to connect online is about 90-100 bucks

like gerv said get the charge and play kit its like 20 bucks and includes a rechargeable battery...if it gets low you snap it on the controller and then snap it into the system

it will look fine on a regular tv, I have a 27 inch flat crt TV and it looks good.

you need gold to play any games online.

Gears of War online sucks fucking donkey cock. Get GOW only for its SP. MP will have a bunch of fags running around and screaming to not use the chainsaw gun even though all they use is the tourque bow and sniper. You will then get kicked probably 6 -7 times because you are some "fuckin n00b" who cant kill anything.

Rainbow6 Online is fun as hell. Dead rising is Okay but got repetitive (from the demo)

Best thing about the xbox is that you can download demos to most all of the new games and try them before you buy.

I know shit all about hacking it and shit but I know I have used half my HD with saves and arcade games and shit.

geRV 03-01-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
Gears of War online sucks fucking donkey cock. Get GOW only for its SP. MP will have a bunch of fags running around and screaming to not use the chainsaw gun even though all they use is the tourque bow and sniper. You will then get kicked probably 6 -7 times because you are some "fuckin n00b" who cant kill anything.

True, GOW is a great sp game but online its retarded no fucking balance in the game whatsoever. annoy:

Ive barely played any of my 360 games online, cod 3 maybe 3 times, gow 2 or 3 times, just the thought of puting up with those squeaky sounding fucking wanker 12 year olds who are playing games rated for 18 year olds. OMG DID YOU SEEN DU BLOOD FROM DUH CHAINSAWZZ!!! yeah only about 300 times now. oOo:

Bucknub 03-01-2007 09:30 PM

tv's.. now this...

Tripper 03-01-2007 09:32 PM

I play my xbox on a regular 14 inch sharp tv and I can play all my games fine, and they look beautiful - The exception is DEAD RISING, which is a fucking sweet game, and one of the cooler sandbox type games on the platform - But you'll want a HDTV to play it as there is an issue with the in-game text/instructions which makes them damn near impossible to read on a regular screen. Still an amazing game, imo.

Live is great...As said, Rainbox 6 is amazing both online and the sp is pretty great too - COD3, for me, is a great online game also - I've spent most of my time on the 360 playing that online. Heaps of fun.

geRV 03-01-2007 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknub
tv's.. now this...

Yes highly relevant imwithstupid:

Tripper 03-01-2007 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
Gears of War online sucks fucking donkey cock. Get GOW only for its SP. MP will have a bunch of fags running around and screaming to not use the chainsaw gun even though all they use is the tourque bow and sniper. You will then get kicked probably 6 -7 times because you are some "fuckin n00b" who cant kill anything.

True, GOW is a great sp game but online its retarded no fucking balance in the game whatsoever. annoy:

Ive barely played any of my 360 games online, cod 3 maybe 3 times, gow 2 or 3 times, just the thought of puting up with those squeaky sounding fucking wanker 12 year olds who are playing games rated for 18 year olds. OMG DID YOU SEEN DU BLOOD FROM DUH CHAINSAWZZ!!! yeah only about 300 times now. oOo:

Most people I have encountered have been of age - Although there are a few 12 year olds that talk too much - I usually just abuse the shit out of them or silent TK them until they leave, or until I get kicked, lol - I get satisfaction so I don't really care about the kick.

TGB! 03-01-2007 10:06 PM

[quote:b7846]Only reason you're getting it is because you can dload games for it?[/quote:b7846]

Pretty much.

[quote:b7846]Whatever happened to buying a console because it had the games you wanted, nowadays people seem to flock to the console thats easily hacked so they dont have to buy any games.[/quote:b7846]

Oh I'll buy games for it - just not ALL games Id like to take a gander at and play. Why limit myself to what I can afford? I mean really - if you added up every game you have an inkling to try - thats mad cash (although I guess you could use GAMEFLY but then theres the whole que system). The DREAMCAST died because it was managed poorly and was blown out the water by the PS2. Plus it kinda sucked as a console - although SKIES OF ARCADIA and LEGACY OF KAIN were fucking awesome.

[quote:b7846]wireless adapter to connect online is about 90-100 bucks [/quote:b7846]

Fuck that noise.

Are there any stats to show how many people are playing on this LIVE bullshit? Im partially going to get this shit for the Online portion of it (and GRAW2 looked sick as hell), but am wary about how many people actually go online with this thing. It seems though that certain games are specifically tuned for the online portion (which is further blurring the line between console/pc - but w/e).

40 bucks for a years subscription isnt bad at all.

Piggy-Back question. . .to utilize the HD output of the XBOX - what do I need to look for on an HDTV if I decide to go that route (some real good deals on HDTV locally).

Short Hand 03-01-2007 10:12 PM

[quote=geRV]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Short Hand":532e9
porn on HD is brilliant.

Well considering how hd movies you can see all the blemishes on actors faces making them look their age i dont see how hd porn would be any good if it had the same effect.[/quote:532e9]

realism. I want to feel the orgasm...

Nyck 03-01-2007 10:44 PM

sign up at this site for some sweet ass deals

http://cheapassgamer.com

I just got Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction for Xbox (BC game) for 9.49 including shipping.

Its a pretty sweet ass game(think crackdown but as a huge green fucker)

They had Tony Hawk P8 for 30 bucks which was tempting but I am buying baseball next week 2K7 comes out and looks amazing

geRV 03-01-2007 11:10 PM

[quote="TGB!":9bbc0]
Piggy-Back question. . .to utilize the HD output of the XBOX - what do I need to look for on an HDTV if I decide to go that route (some real good deals on HDTV locally).[/b][/color][/quote:9bbc0]


Pretty much any tv that supports 720p 1080-i or 1080p. Look for a hdtv that has a pc vga connector on it and buy the vga cable for the 360 (official one not that third party shit), then dvd's will be upscaled through the vga connection. 360 also supports 1080p but no games use it yet, then again you can buy the hd drive addon and view movies in full hd which look amazing.

1080p tv's are pricier though, i think the majority on the market support at least 1080i through hdmi and 720p through vga. we've a 40" samsung which does 1080-i and the picture quality is amazing. Pretty much any hd tv will give a great picture quality, 1080p is only really neccessary if you want full hd-dvd movie impact.

TGB! 03-01-2007 11:22 PM

Im looking at this. . .

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/custom ... e&n=172282

Godsmack 03-01-2007 11:36 PM

I got a 360 n ps3... n I dont even touch the ps3... thing sucks balls

Nyck 03-01-2007 11:41 PM

[quote="TGB!":b96f9][b][color=Violet]Im looking at this. . .

[url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000F2N7D0/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/002-7581789-8860846?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=172282"]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/custom ... e&n=172282[/url][/color][/b][/quote:b96f9]

I like it hot reviews from customers, free shipping, under a Grr...

eeves 03-02-2007 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godsmack
I got ps3...

annoy:

geRV 03-02-2007 04:55 AM

DLp tv = digital light processing. basically a projector screen tv, dunno how good they are compared to lcd and plasma. I know the viewing angle on them is pretty narrow though. Stick with lcd imo.

Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNS4051D- ... uctDetails

The 360 supports these resolutions:

640 x 480
848 x 480
1024 x 768
1280 x 720 (equivalent to 720p)
1280 x 768
1280 x 1024
1360 x 768
1920x1080 <--- the daddy


That tv supports upto 1360x768, a better buy id say.

geRV 03-02-2007 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godsmack
I got a 360 n ps3... n I dont even touch the ps3... thing sucks balls

I got resistence for my ps3 a while back, played upto the mission where you get caught by the aliens and havn't touched it since. mad: Still pissed those sony cocksuckers have that hdcp shit so i can't directly use my monitor. Have to use a converter which really dulls the colour down. oOo:

Bucknub 03-02-2007 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
DLp tv = digital light processing.

LOL, I ask the tool at best buy what DLP stood for, he said it doesnt stand for anything, that's just what they're called, hah

geRV 03-02-2007 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknub
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
DLp tv = digital light processing.

LOL, I ask the tool at best buy what DLP stood for, he said it doesnt stand for anything, that's just what they're called, hah


I think the drool bucket attached to his chin mighta been a good indicator of his intelligence as well. biggrin:

I really dunno how half the fuckers in these electronics stores get their jobs. They must go through some kinda test where they have a tv a fridge and a microwave in a line and they have to put the proper name tags on them. Only need 1 correct one to get a job though. oOo:

TGB! 03-02-2007 08:11 AM

Thats a nice tv - but way the fuck out of my budget range. The reason Im interested in the SAMSUNG is because its the tv I first saw the 360 on, and it looked great. And for less than a G. Theres no way I can justify dropping 2 to 3G's on an HDTV.

Pyro 03-02-2007 11:32 AM

So far from all the games ive played on xbox 360 (christians bro is loaded with money and has like 20+ games) is Rainbow 6 vegas.

either way it's a decent purchase.

Tripper 03-02-2007 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
So far from all the games ive played on xbox 360 (christians bro is loaded with money and has like 20+ games) is Rainbow 6 vegas.

either way it's a decent purchase.

Come again? oOo:

Pyro 03-02-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
So far from all the games ive played on xbox 360 (christians bro is loaded with money and has like 20+ games) my favouite/best game is Rainbow 6 vegas.

either way it's a decent purchase.

Come again? oOo:

happy?

ninty 03-02-2007 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
DLp tv = digital light processing. basically a projector screen tv, dunno how good they are compared to lcd and plasma. I know the viewing angle on them is pretty narrow though. Stick with lcd imo.

Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNS4051D- ... uctDetails

The 360 supports these resolutions:

640 x 480
848 x 480
1024 x 768
1280 x 720 (equivalent to 720p)
1280 x 768
1280 x 1024
1360 x 768
1920x1080 <--- the daddy


That tv supports upto 1360x768, a better buy id say.

I have that TV in a 32". It's beautiful.

xbox supports 1080p?

geRV 03-02-2007 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
DLp tv = digital light processing. basically a projector screen tv, dunno how good they are compared to lcd and plasma. I know the viewing angle on them is pretty narrow though. Stick with lcd imo.

Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNS4051D- ... uctDetails

The 360 supports these resolutions:

640 x 480
848 x 480
1024 x 768
1280 x 720 (equivalent to 720p)
1280 x 768
1280 x 1024
1360 x 768
1920x1080 <--- the daddy


That tv supports upto 1360x768, a better buy id say.

I have that TV in a 32". It's beautiful.

xbox supports 1080p?

360 does, check your video settings, 1920x1080 is an option since a few updates back. Only the dashboard and hd-dvd movie can make use of it so far though.

ninty 03-02-2007 12:33 PM

yeah i meant 360. i don't have one though, i just thought it was only 720. can you get actual 1080p out of a component cable? don't you need hdmi to do that?

geRV 03-02-2007 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
yeah i meant 360. i don't have one though, i just thought it was only 720. can you get actual 1080p out of a component cable? don't you need hdmi to do that?

Far as im aware vga or component can do 1080 o the 360. Nothing really special about needing a hdmi cable, its just another higher res that even older pc's can do via vga. happy:

TGB! 03-02-2007 12:42 PM

God damnit - who the hell is CHRISTIAN! cuss:

I keep on hearing tons of crazy shit about "Red lights" and overheating. . .that - is not good. I didnt mind DRE's on SONY's - because I installed all my games to a HD and havent played from a disc in years. . .but if the fucker just refuses to start. . .thats no good.

geRV 03-02-2007 12:44 PM

Theres a years warranty on them so if it fucks up bring it back to the store or call ms. I think bestbuy sell some kinda 2-3 year warranty on them as well.

Of course warranty only valid if its not modded. biggrin:

The overheating things bullshit, the console puts out a lot of heat but so does my ps3, even my wii heats up a good bit on the left hand side. Even my pc when running games, the cpu loads up to over 60c and the 2 graphics cards hit 94c+ each. oOo:

TGB! 03-02-2007 12:51 PM

Yea, but it looks like the modding is pretty inevasive, and many folks who have had to have theirs repairsed - sent it in and everything was a go.

Normally I wouldnt worry about console errors, but fuck there seems to be ALOT of folks complaining out there. . .but then a majority on other forums I visit do not. I just hate to get stuck with a fucking lemon.

Also this HDTV is available in my area for 500 bucks. It looks like its two years old, but would suit my needs (and cheapness):

[url=http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDF-42WE655-Projection-Television-Integrated/dp/B00061ZNVE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-9594095-3026532?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1172860952&sr=1-1:4f982]Damn this is a long URL![/url:4f982]

Again I only ask because I really dont know what to look for. For example - HDMI? For the average user, I'm guessing HDMI isnt all that - and mostly for videophiles?

geRV 03-02-2007 12:58 PM

At the minute the only console to support HDMI is the ps3, all hdmi does is give you digital audio and video over one connection, instead of having a connector for video and 2 others for audio. The 360 uses vga or component so its an analogue signal. Ive tried my ps3 with hdmi and with component and to me theres practically dick all difference in terms of the image quality.


As for that tv, 88lbs in weight eek: , i really dunno too much about projection tv's. Supports 1080i and 720p so its well enough suited to the 360's needs.

TGB! 03-02-2007 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
At the minute the only console to support HDMI is the ps3, all hdmi does is give you digital audio and video over one connection, instead of having a connector for video and 2 others for audio. The 360 uses vga or component so its an analogue signal. Ive tried my ps3 with hdmi and with component and to me theres practically dick all difference in terms of the image quality.


As for that tv, 88lbs in weight eek: , i really dunno too much about projection tv's. Supports 1080i and 720p so its well enough suited to the 360's needs.

I think thats 88lbs with all packaging. . .guy is only selling the TV - so it should be like 60lbs. . .also is offering the TV stand.

geRV 03-02-2007 01:07 PM

[quote="TGB!":b0970]
Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
At the minute the only console to support HDMI is the ps3, all hdmi does is give you digital audio and video over one connection, instead of having a connector for video and 2 others for audio. The 360 uses vga or component so its an analogue signal. Ive tried my ps3 with hdmi and with component and to me theres practically dick all difference in terms of the image quality.


As for that tv, 88lbs in weight eek: , i really dunno too much about projection tv's. Supports 1080i and 720p so its well enough suited to the 360's needs.

I think thats 88lbs with all packaging. . .guy is only selling the TV - so it should be like 60lbs. . .also is offering the TV stand.[/quote:b0970]

You're probably better of going to an electronics store and looking at the tv's to see exactly what a projection tv is like. Id be very suprised if you couldn't pick up a 40" lcd for under a grand. Wharfdale tv's are meant to be good and not wallet busters.

Pyro 03-02-2007 02:51 PM

[quote="TGB!":707ac]God damnit - who the hell is CHRISTIAN! cuss:

I keep on hearing tons of crazy shit about "Red lights" and overheating. . .that - is not good. I didnt mind DRE's on SONY's - because I installed all my games to a HD and havent played from a disc in years. . .but if the fucker just refuses to start. . .thats no good.
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