Want to go to prison?
 

then make sure you end up in austria
http://www.geekarmy.com/cool/Austrian-Prison.html
I can't believe that place is actually a prison. Most people have to pay shitload to go to a place like that.

Man, they rehab convicts into phaggot furniture designers or something? oOo:

get ass fucked by some hardcore motha fuckas right there

i heard many prisoners here in the United States get cable television.

And btw, why do we give prisoners weights? Why should we help them get strong and able to cause more harm to others within the prison. I mean, I could understand regular exercise to keep in shape like running, situps, push ups, etc, but giving them weights just seems to make them more dangerous.

if yo udid enough pushups you could still get massive arms

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":7a8af]if yo udid enough pushups you could still get massive arms[/quote:7a8af]

Yeah but not as fast as if your lifting huge weights. Its probably also a mental thing, if enough guys see you lifting huge weights they'll fear you - So everybody is lifting to show how tough they are, next thing you know everybody is huge.

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is that a f*cking joke

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":45c3e][img]http://media.geekarmy.com/geekarmy/austria_jail_021.jpg[/img]
is that a f*cking joke[/quote:45c3e]this is PRISOOOON.

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":52539]if yo udid enough pushups you could still get massive arms[/quote:52539]

but you wouldn't be able to get as big because you don't have as much resistance.

and wtf at the cell picture. That is 8 times nicer than my dorm room that I am paying to use!

[quote=Tripper]Yeah but not as fast as if your lifting huge weights. Its probably also a mental thing, if enough guys see you lifting huge weights they'll fear you - So everybody is lifting to show how tough they are, next thing you know everybody is huge.[/quote:f6044]

Yes but it gives the little guys a chance to not got his face fucked in.

[quote=Proteus]Yes but it gives the little guys a chance to not got his face fucked in.[/quote:00dd9]

Prison is supposed to be a harsh place for a reason - Why do you think noone gives a shit about the ridiculous amounts of anal rapes that occur?

im sure america has similar rooms in our lesser-security prisons

They mix the male prisoners with the female prisoners? I've never seen that before.

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Or are they off duty officers?

or is it a visit maybe..derrrrr

You all insult them, Yet their penal system is FAR superior to the American system. Not to mention that their criminals have a habit to NOT re-offend as much. ed: ... Maybe you should take notes....

i wish more prisons were like this

[quote="Short Hand":e4ae3]You all insult them, Yet their penal system is FAR superior to the American system. Not to mention that their criminals have a habit to NOT re-offend as much. ed: ... Maybe you should take notes....[/quote:e4ae3]
and im sure you have all the statistics to back that up sleeping:

Go look them up, they wont prove me wrong. MR party. rolleyes:

[quote="Short Hand":cbcaa]You all insult them, Yet their penal system is FAR superior to the American system. Not to mention that their criminals have a habit to NOT re-offend as much. ed: ... Maybe you should take notes....[/quote:cbcaa]

I don't think it's just to have people "punished" by living in those conditions. I don't think the living quarters are the reason why they have better systems, but if they were, I wouldn't care. I'm not paying for a criminal to have nicer quarters than me, it's as simple as that--it's not right.

[quote=c312]I don't think it's just to have people "punished" by living in those conditions. I don't think the living quarters are the reason why they have better systems, but if they were, I wouldn't care. I'm not paying for a criminal to have nicer quarters than me, it's as simple as that--it's not right.[/quote:80c21]

It is about rehabilitation. Not Punishment. If you throw someone into an enviroment like San.Q, What do you get in return ? Someone worse ! Who will leave the system, and re-offend.(This in return costs you more money) NOW this luxury prison is not the solution here in North America, but it is an example we should look apon to slowly change it here, and develope it into a state where this could be acceptable.

[quote="Short Hand":4c3c4]Go look them up, they wont prove me wrong. MR party. rolleyes:[/quote:4c3c4]
where can i look them up? surely you should know as you are one spewing these "facts" without citation, you got them from some official source though im sure.

[quote=jujumantb]where can i look them up? surely you should know as you are one spewing these "facts" without citation, you got them from some official source though im sure.[/quote:1d6f6]

Until you can "proove me wrong", I stand to be corrected. Thkz B.kisses.

[quote="Short Hand":b622f][quote=jujumantb]where can i look them up? surely you should know as you are one spewing these "facts" without citation, you got them from some official source though im sure.[/quote:b622f]

Until you can "proove me wrong", I stand to be corrected. Thkz B.kisses.[/quote:b622f]
haha fuck that, alright, next midterm paper my works cited page will just say "proove me wrong".
im not saying its an incorrect statement, i have never seen such records, but i KNOW you made it up in an attempt to make a point that you couldnt back up otherwise, its a pretty standard internet debate technique, im quite the veteran at it myself.

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":24fc3]if yo udid enough pushups you could still get massive arms[/quote:24fc3]

using your body weight is for girls.. 8-12 reps = mass.

back on topic.. seems like a waste of money.. dont need all that fancy crap for rehabilitation.

Prisons in general are a waste of money. Our tax money is being spent to house the inmates and feed them while they waste away.

Put them to work or do community service during the day.

You're right. Fuck if I've ever seen a prison where they make inmates go out and pick up trash on highways, or do outdoors work around the city. oOo: oOo:

Yeah it would be a great solution to have DANGEROUS CRIMINALS OUT AND ABOUT DAY TO DAY....and it wouldnt cost the taxpayers at all to have guards watching them 24-7.

....If there are no prisons, where are they going to sleep, eat and shit?


If I remember correctly, not only is there a sentence of community service in most court systems around the world, but most prisons take their prisoners out to do work, or in house make them work already.

minor offences that dont warrant jail time almost always have a tone of community service hours attached, its only major offences and people deemed a threat to their community who get jail time. jail is a place to to reflect on what you did, most everyone who goes to jail here in america will tell you its the worst experience of their life and will do anything to not go back. repeat offences, i would say, are more a result of poverty mixed with culturally driven poor choices than our jail system.

I think you're right. You always see guys on cops saying "I can't go back, I don't want to go back, man" Nobody wants to go back to jail, but they end up there because they take up crime in an attempt to escape poverty. Either that or they just can't give up bad habits or hanging with bad influences.

[quote="Short Hand":d4bbd][quote=c312]I don't think it's just to have people "punished" by living in those conditions. I don't think the living quarters are the reason why they have better systems, but if they were, I wouldn't care. I'm not paying for a criminal to have nicer quarters than me, it's as simple as that--it's not right.[/quote:d4bbd]

It is about rehabilitation. Not Punishment. If you throw someone into an enviroment like San.Q, What do you get in return ? Someone worse ! Who will leave the system, and re-offend.(This in return costs you more money) NOW this luxury prison is not the solution here in North America, but it is an example we should look apon to slowly change it here, and develope it into a state where this could be acceptable.[/quote:d4bbd]

That was the first semi-not biased post I've ever read from you.

Good point, but I'd imagine the cultural differences in Austria are a lot less than the cultural, social, and lingual differences in America. It's called a melting pot for a reason, and people are still not over the fact that they're different from everybody else, so there's still a lot of hate floating around. Some.... a lot of people in America are pretty fucked in the head and the only way to make them not want to go back to prison sometimes is to have them leave with an asshole they can fit a watermelon into.

We do have minimum security prisons aswell here too, that are light and breezy on the inmates, it's not like they're all Federal "fuck you in the ass" prisions. /office space

[quote="Short Hand":5401d][quote=c312]I don't think it's just to have people "punished" by living in those conditions. I don't think the living quarters are the reason why they have better systems, but if they were, I wouldn't care. I'm not paying for a criminal to have nicer quarters than me, it's as simple as that--it's not right.[/quote:5401d]

It is about rehabilitation. Not Punishment. If you throw someone into an enviroment like San.Q, What do you get in return ? Someone worse ! Who will leave the system, and re-offend.(This in return costs you more money) NOW this luxury prison is not the solution here in North America, but it is an example we should look apon to slowly change it here, and develope it into a state where this could be acceptable.[/quote:5401d]

I can write a book about the American Judicial system and still not be able to explain everything. Here in NY, we have a shitload of state prisons and each is set up differently according to the era in which it was built. As time passes and times change, new prisons are build around the ideology for that particular time. I can honestly say, no system has been proven to be better over the other in the long run. An inmate is an inmate, no matter what. Times may change but the bad guys still remain "bad guys". Only a small portion of incarcerated people actually turn their lives around after prison and never get in trouble again. Most are repeat offenders who live their lives around the judicial system.

Prison is supposed to be a place to house the bad away from the general public. It's really not a place for punishment, nor rehabilitation. There's a line in between where the prison system sits. Yes, there are rehab programs but for the most part, it's something for the prisoners to do. Same as TV. it's not a right, it's a privilege It's just something to occupy their time. A bored prisoner is just like a kid, they'll eventually get into trouble if they're bored. These "programs" look good on paper, but they are merely a deterent to boredom.

As for the Austrian prison....yes, it's a nice place but....i bet that prison is set up to house only the "model prisoner". Prisons like that are used as a tool to gain "good behavior". If a guy there fucks up in the slightest, BAM, out he goes. We have similar shit like that in the US. Places for the "model prisoner", and places for the worst of the worst. It's nothing more than a tool to gain compliance and good behavior.