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geRV 04-25-2008 05:54 PM

GTA 4 vid review
 
Suprisingly looks like the ps3 version has a slight edge in looks:

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/object...ew_042508.html


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For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-25-2008 06:08 PM

yay!

elstatec 04-25-2008 06:25 PM

whilst your waiting 5-10 minutes for it to install onto the ps3 harddrive i will be playing it straight away - and other than gta 90% the multi platform games ive got are better on the 360.

Pyro 04-25-2008 07:16 PM

fucking sick

best game since ocarina of time? any game that is half as good as OOT is good in my eyes

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-26-2008 08:19 AM

Now I have my summer plans set.

TGB! 04-26-2008 10:47 AM

If you didn't like GTA: San Andreas or Vice City - you are not going to like this game. If you loved the previous two, you are going to be in hog fucking heaven. A lot of people are complaining its just the last two games with a graphical overhaul, and thats true - but like any sandbox game they just refined what they did before: Vice City was better than GTAIII, and SA improved on both of them.

The cover system is good to. Its not Gears Of War good, but it at least adds some "tactic" to the game other than just guns blazing (although its a little suspect that one can just hide behind hospital chairs and not get the shit shot out of him).

Also - the game is 100% funnier and better acted than SA (which I thought was awesome for its story): Niko is fucking hilarious, and so is Roman. The Rasta-Men you meet in the beginning of the game. . .make sure to pull out a Rasta to English dictionary or turn on subtitles.

Basically - its awesome.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-26-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TGB! (Post 893220)
If you didn't like GTA: San Andreas or Vice City - you are not going to like this game. If you loved the previous two, you are going to be in hog fucking heaven. A lot of people are complaining its just the last two games with a graphical overhaul, and thats true - but like any sandbox game they just refined what they did before: Vice City was better than GTAIII, and SA improved on both of them.

The cover system is good to. Its not Gears Of War good, but it at least adds some "tactic" to the game other than just guns blazing (although its a little suspect that one can just hide behind hospital chairs and not get the shit shot out of him).

Also - the game is 100% funnier and better acted than SA (which I thought was awesome for its story): Niko is fucking hilarious, and so is Roman. The Rasta-Men you meet in the beginning of the game. . .make sure to pull out a Rasta to English dictionary or turn on subtitles.

Basically - its awesome.

i'm sold, I'm buying a PS3 with this game.

EDIT: IGN gave this game a 10 for PS3 and 360... in the 10 years i've gone to that site, I've never seen a 10.... I'm so psyched.

gtboys34 04-26-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TGB! (Post 893220)
If you didn't like GTA: San Andreas or Vice City - you are not going to like this game. If you loved the previous two, you are going to be in hog fucking heaven. A lot of people are complaining its just the last two games with a graphical overhaul, and thats true - but like any sandbox game they just refined what they did before: Vice City was better than GTAIII, and SA improved on both of them.

The cover system is good to. Its not Gears Of War good, but it at least adds some "tactic" to the game other than just guns blazing (although its a little suspect that one can just hide behind hospital chairs and not get the shit shot out of him).

Also - the game is 100% funnier and better acted than SA (which I thought was awesome for its story): Niko is fucking hilarious, and so is Roman. The Rasta-Men you meet in the beginning of the game. . .make sure to pull out a Rasta to English dictionary or turn on subtitles.

Basically - its awesome.

u played already?

geRV 04-26-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gtboys34 (Post 893225)
u played already?


Its been on dload sites for a few days now.

gtboys34 04-26-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by geRV (Post 893226)
Its been on dload sites for a few days now.

o so that link was real huh...i seen it on another site but i thought dude was bs'n

TGB! 04-26-2008 06:38 PM

I got the game a minute ago. Since yesterday have managed to put 10+ hours into it, and am sitting at 20% completion (thats not story completion of course). So far I think it is the better of all the GTA's even managing to best SA which I thought was loads better than Vice City. As I said the storyline and the acting and the writing kick the other GTA's in the teeth, but it still is fundementally a GTA game. What makes it better is how much Rockstar has learned from their previous games, things are just more integrated and smoother and the "dynamics" of the game-system make sense.

For instance, most (although not all) story and side quests are handled through your cell phone: anyone needs a job done, they will text you or they will call you if its urgent. A text can be done at your leisure, a call you have to answer on the spot - very often your bitch or your cousin or someone will call you in the middle of a mission and you have to turn them down, affecting your "relationship" rating w/ them and forcing you to repair it (by going on a date or hanging out). Other missions will be had through the internet: Brucie will send you an email telling you that he needs a certain car lifted; the only way to get these missions is to actually go online - he wont text you or tell you to lift it (as part of this side-quest missions). Vigilante missions are handled through the onboard computer of cop cars, and now there are (so far) two types: respond to criminal activity (gangs, car jackings, etc) or hunt down someone on the most wanted list. I know the Wanted List is finite, but I'm almost positive the criminal activity portion is dynamic and random (it rewards cash from slain thugs and free ammo). I have yet to do any cab missions, however I'm certain that these are integrated into your cousin Romans business and is repeatable. So no more "hmm lemme just drive to these contacts houses or roll over the flashing circle" - its all more realistic from an "game system" standpoint.

Theyve also done away with that bullshit "drive through the stars to lose your wanted level". Now its more a mini-game of cat and mouse. Cops (in cars or on foot) show up on your minimap, and the last cop to see you forms a circle around your position. Get out of the circle, and you're wanted level (after about 15 seconds) will disappear. This is of course easy on one-star (you may be chased by just the cop who saw you commit the crime or responded to your crime), and fucking brutal on as little as 3 stars (the helis come out and they obviously can fly faster than you can drive. I've not gained (and evaded) a 6-star wanted level so I have no idea how ridiculous that is, but the armored swat cars and shotgun/semi-automatic wielding cops come out at I believe three stars. You can get clever though, hoping into an alley and ducking and letting the cops drive by before you make a run for it behind them, but they WILL call in backup and theres no greater blueball moment than outrunning them in that nice new car you got into all this trouble to steal, only to have some plainclothes asshole on the street spot you just as your about to cross the "circle" and reset the entire fucking chase. You can also your the Spray And Prays and run into a store to try and lose the cops (as well as starting a story mode to auto lose everything), but its easiest (and more satisfying) to just try and outrun the law.

Which brings me to the cars. When you first pick up the game, you will be pissed at the handling, if you're at all like me and are not used to playing racers that dont handle like Burnout Paradise. After awhile youll get used to the car handling, and will feel accomplished - only to get into another car and realize it handles completely fucking different and youll need to relearn that one as well (dont get me started on motorcycles).

All in all - great game so far, and I havent even gotten to any of the shit covered in ANY of the trailers (except two scenes), all the stuff with the blacks and the head mafia dude. . .hasn't even been alluded to.

Im a hardcore anti-buy-games. . .but if somehow I lost the ability to download shit, I'd buy this game, and the limited edition in a fucking heartbeat - just for the story alone. Nico is easily the best character out of EVERY GTA superstar (Sorry Ray Liotta). However, I've only spotted one "celebrity" in the game - Kat Williams, and I dont like him in person, but his shit in the game is hilarious (he plays himself and a comedian on one of the television stations).

gtboys34 04-26-2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGB! (Post 893230)
I got the game a minute ago. Since yesterday have managed to put 10+ hours into it, and am sitting at 20% completion (thats not story completion of course). So far I think it is the better of all the GTA's even managing to best SA which I thought was loads better than Vice City. As I said the storyline and the acting and the writing kick the other GTA's in the teeth, but it still is fundementally a GTA game. What makes it better is how much Rockstar has learned from their previous games, things are just more integrated and smoother and the "dynamics" of the game-system make sense.

For instance, most (although not all) story and side quests are handled through your cell phone: anyone needs a job done, they will text you or they will call you if its urgent. A text can be done at your leisure, a call you have to answer on the spot - very often your bitch or your cousin or someone will call you in the middle of a mission and you have to turn them down, affecting your "relationship" rating w/ them and forcing you to repair it (by going on a date or hanging out). Other missions will be had through the internet: Brucie will send you an email telling you that he needs a certain car lifted; the only way to get these missions is to actually go online - he wont text you or tell you to lift it (as part of this side-quest missions). Vigilante missions are handled through the onboard computer of cop cars, and now there are (so far) two types: respond to criminal activity (gangs, car jackings, etc) or hunt down someone on the most wanted list. I know the Wanted List is finite, but I'm almost positive the criminal activity portion is dynamic and random (it rewards cash from slain thugs and free ammo). I have yet to do any cab missions, however I'm certain that these are integrated into your cousin Romans business and is repeatable. So no more "hmm lemme just drive to these contacts houses or roll over the flashing circle" - its all more realistic from an "game system" standpoint.

Theyve also done away with that bullshit "drive through the stars to lose your wanted level". Now its more a mini-game of cat and mouse. Cops (in cars or on foot) show up on your minimap, and the last cop to see you forms a circle around your position. Get out of the circle, and you're wanted level (after about 15 seconds) will disappear. This is of course easy on one-star (you may be chased by just the cop who saw you commit the crime or responded to your crime), and fucking brutal on as little as 3 stars (the helis come out and they obviously can fly faster than you can drive. I've not gained (and evaded) a 6-star wanted level so I have no idea how ridiculous that is, but the armored swat cars and shotgun/semi-automatic wielding cops come out at I believe three stars. You can get clever though, hoping into an alley and ducking and letting the cops drive by before you make a run for it behind them, but they WILL call in backup and theres no greater blueball moment than outrunning them in that nice new car you got into all this trouble to steal, only to have some plainclothes asshole on the street spot you just as your about to cross the "circle" and reset the entire fucking chase. You can also your the Spray And Prays and run into a store to try and lose the cops (as well as starting a story mode to auto lose everything), but its easiest (and more satisfying) to just try and outrun the law.

Which brings me to the cars. When you first pick up the game, you will be pissed at the handling, if you're at all like me and are not used to playing racers that dont handle like Burnout Paradise. After awhile youll get used to the car handling, and will feel accomplished - only to get into another car and realize it handles completely fucking different and youll need to relearn that one as well (dont get me started on motorcycles).

All in all - great game so far, and I havent even gotten to any of the shit covered in ANY of the trailers (except two scenes), all the stuff with the blacks and the head mafia dude. . .hasn't even been alluded to.

Im a hardcore anti-buy-games. . .but if somehow I lost the ability to download shit, I'd buy this game, and the limited edition in a fucking heartbeat - just for the story alone. Nico is easily the best character out of EVERY GTA superstar (Sorry Ray Liotta). However, I've only spotted one "celebrity" in the game - Kat Williams, and I dont like him in person, but his shit in the game is hilarious (he plays himself and a comedian on one of the television stations).

nice review! I'll be picking it up probaly next friday along with another month or 2 xbox live cards

Gonzo 04-27-2008 08:47 AM

i got the game last night and so far its pretty good. the only thing i dont like is they did a shit job with the day time shadows.

Bean 2 04-27-2008 09:40 AM

is this coming out for PC?

mr.miyagi 04-27-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bean 2 (Post 893245)
is this coming out for PC?

i think a lot of people want to know this, me included. I don't think they've said fuck all about it on PC......... :mad:

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-27-2008 05:50 PM

madden is not coming to PC, so take what you will from that (although that is completely unrelated)

geRV 04-27-2008 10:06 PM

Rockstar have said that a pc version is not in the works. More than likely though thats total bullshit to make people think their only way of playing it is to get a console version. Id be suprised if the pc version wasn't hitting shelves before the end of the year, usually it comes 6-8 months or so after the console versions.

Used to be released alongside them (for the original games back in the day) but apparently we have to play second fiddle to consoles now because "theres more money in consoles", never mind the fact the games already been dloaded thousands of times before its even on store shelves.

Wonder what excuse theyre gonna pull out when they realise these days console piracy is probably just as high as pc piracy. "angryfire"

geRV 04-27-2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by [DAS REICH] Blitz (Post 893253)
madden is not coming to PC, so take what you will from that (although that is completely unrelated)

Dunno how exactly less of ea's rehashed yearly shit not being on the pc is a bad thing. :confused:

geRV 04-27-2008 10:23 PM

Apparently this is an example of the popup on the 360 version

http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08170/29zbk3d922.gif


That is pretty bad and really obvious, reminds me of playing saints row, you could be playing and huge chunks of the road and background would appear and disappear.

If thats an isolated incident though not so bad, could be a worst case scenario.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-27-2008 10:28 PM

oh wow, that sucks. That can't be right.

geRV 04-27-2008 10:30 PM

Well eds not mentioned it so maybe the above is an isolated incident. I'll know tuesday.

TGB! 04-28-2008 12:38 AM

I havent seen any of that shit. Something tells me thats a bunch of haters hatchet-jobbing that. Seriously, if you see any pop-up in this game, you're actively looking for it. 18HRS in and I haven't seen anything that even comes close to that.

Really, once you get to the second island, and see Star Junction in the rain and a thunderstorm - you appreciate just what next-gen sandbox games are SUPPOSED to look like (fucking CRACKDOWN).

Seriously that screen has to be like an early beta bullshit or something. The only weird graphical bullshit I've seen is one character model (I think you'll see it when you get to him) looks like something between PS2 and PS3 - its hella weird and you can almost tell all his polygons aren't there. It comes during a story mission, and the guy looks very angular compared to everyone else.

Oh and really - this game is fucking ridiculous. Something I have noticed though, is that some of that characters "move" like they do in old GTA's. Like the same kind of getting into the car animation or how they move when a car door is locked (of course now Niko just kicks, elbows or smashes it in with a gun). But really, if anyone is complaining about this game they are doing so only because they want to be fucking contrary. I can not wait to play multiplayer in this shit. Some of these areas are designed with the care that you might see in a COD or HALO (no fuck HALO) map. Yusif's construction site for instance is going to be a major battlezone I'm thinking.

Word of advice thats not a spoiler, do Playboy X's first mission AS SOON as you get it. Make your life easier.

elstatec 04-28-2008 05:34 AM

10/10 eh.

one the best games ever in gta 4 is made in the British Isles :goodjob:


tomorrow cant waittttttttt, i will have no life until i complete everything in this game.

mr.miyagi 04-28-2008 07:41 AM

is it really not coming out for pc? that is fucking shit :mad:

edit: "As for GTA IV coming out on the PC, that’s very doubtful as we currently have no plans to develop for the PC. We could only focus our efforts extensively on so many consoles at once, and PC might not see the light of day."

http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages....794425bf45.gif


oh and gta4 HOOKERS gentlemen, hah


[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-28-2008 08:11 AM

hahahi like the comments by the black dude

m00nraker 04-28-2008 04:07 PM

Im stopping by Gamestop after work to meet up with friends for the midnight release :D

geRV 04-28-2008 07:44 PM

Looks like half the uk and europe has snagged it. No fucking way am i freezing my balls off with that midnight shit.

TGB! 04-28-2008 08:45 PM

ANDSV2 for anyone who has it and wants to go nuts.

geRV 04-29-2008 11:19 AM

Any other opinions? Im seeing complaints on hardocp forums that the game is hard on the eyes when upscaled to 1920x1080. Also complaints about the depth of field effect reducing buildings to giant blocks in the background.

Not got it yet so i dunno how much of a problem this is.

geRV 04-29-2008 05:32 PM

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showforum=233

looks like a load of people are having issues with the game locking up, on 360 and ps3.

[DAS REICH] Blitz 04-29-2008 05:36 PM

i got a quesiton for PS3 members (if there are any). How come the 40GB version is only available in stores, and the more expensive version isn't? I'm trying to buy the version that has PS2 compatibility, and the 40GB that is out doesn't have this feature. WTF??

geRV 04-29-2008 05:40 PM

The 60 gig got phased out and is near impossible to come by. Its funny because the 2 consoles sony launched with (20 and 60 gig) dont really exist anymore.

Uk was flooded with 60 gigs as those ****s at sony wouldn't give us the cheaper option.

mr.miyagi 04-29-2008 06:31 PM

Hey Gerv could you give me some quick advice on purchasing a 360.

I'm planning on getting one 2moro but don't know what I should get.

I'm buying GTA4 too and Live at some point, will I need a large amount of gigs? also, any particular shops doing a good deal do you know?

(shop stock permitting of course :)

elstatec 04-29-2008 06:59 PM

miyagi fuck the shops, goto play.com they got an awesome deal where you get a premium 360 and gta 4 for like £200. it has the 20 gigt hard drive in it - and gta comes with a 1 month free trial of xbox live - and the console comes with 1 month aswell.

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-...tml?dpr=132836





anyway i cant fucking stop playing this game. love driving when drunk haha.

mr.miyagi 04-29-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elstatec (Post 893300)
miyagi fuck the shops, goto play.com they got an awesome deal where you get a premium 360 and gta 4 for like £200. it has the 20 gigt hard drive in it - and gta comes with a 1 month free trial of xbox live - and the console comes with 1 month aswell.

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-...tml?dpr=132836

anyway i cant fucking stop playing this game. love driving when drunk haha.

I saw that but that deal doesn't go live til friday, is a premium much better than an arcade and is 20gigs good?

I know zip about 360s.....but hopefully I could play with more people online

Bean 2 04-29-2008 07:41 PM

Wow thats a good deal. Is it still good for America or only in the UK?

geRV 04-29-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mr.miyagi (Post 893302)
I saw that but that deal doesn't go live til friday, is a premium much better than an arcade and is 20gigs good?

I know zip about 360s.....but hopefully I could play with more people online


20 gigs is standard hard drive size (13 is usable), the elites have 120 drives of which 90 odds is usable. Arcade is a core system with a memory card, really you're better off with the premium, make sure its one with a hdmi output. Most have them these days and afaik it states hdmi on the front of the box. Makes using it with a hdtv much better. :)

elstatec 04-29-2008 10:05 PM

nah bean its uk only.still wait til friday miyagi.

i just cant believe this game, its too big. just been watching ricky gervais in the standup place with the rasta then got drunk and stole a hellacopter and jumped out of it from the highest point to recreate the ending of crank.

mr.miyagi 04-30-2008 09:22 PM

the play deal is off now, couldn't even pre-order the bitch so I went to pc world and got a 360 pro. Been playing/watching GTA4 tonight online for the past 6 hours, this is the best MP I've ever seen, so much fun its untrue. I'm a total noob of course but im learning

ADD ME ON LIVE GUYZ - my name is: waxonic

the gta4 disc was my mates so i still have to buy mine, hopefully find a copy 2moro if i'm lucky

Bean 2 04-30-2008 09:28 PM

bought a 360 on ebay, wont have it until i graduate in 2 weeks though. Been playing on my roommates system for now. This game is amazing. Cops and Crooks is insane.


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