Just picked up the new PNY Verto GeForce4 Ti4600

I wanted to get the Visiontec version but BestBuy sold out all their cards(4) within 1 hour of opening today. I then went over to CompUSA which only carried the PNY. I bought the PNY, as I have never had any problems with any other product from them.

The installation went without a hitch. Gerard pointed out that there may be a problem with the hardware installation. Because of the size of the new GeForce card and other components on the motherboard.
I did not find this a problem and as you can see from my picture below, eveything fits fine.

Here you can see the difference in size between the two cards.

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From this picture you can see the new card installed into my case

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I'm using a ASUS P4T-E motherboard with the Intel 850 chipset.

I did a complete uninstall, of the old drivers. Then rebooted with the new card and installed the same drivers (V27.20)
Upon rebooting I was prompted by the wizard to install the drivers. I did a manual install. pointing the wizard to my folder on my desktop.

With the drivers installed, I rebooted the computer one more time.

Upon restart I started MOH:AA. I double checked all my settings to see if they had changed.
Below are my settings and specs for MOH
MOH:AA v1.1
Blood Mod
1024x768
32bit
Texture detail High
Texture color depth 32bit
Texture filter Trilliner
Wall decals checked
weather effects checked
Texture compression checked
View Model Full
Shadows Complex (don't usually run this on at all)
Terrain detail Higher
Model Detail Higher
effects Higher
Curve Detail Medium

all checked off
console
static decals
real dynamic lighting
full entity lighting
volumetric smoke
weapons bar
crosshair

MOH:AA did not give me any problems with the new card and all my settings above stayed the same ( from GeForce3 64 meg)
I went to the console and typed "maplist".
I selected map m3|1a.bsp ( Omaha Beach )
I seen an improvement of about 7-11 FPS.
GeForce3 64meg 29 to 61
GeForce4 Ti4600 36 to 72
If I disable shadows( I usually do )
GeForce3 64meg 36 -70
GeForce4 Ti4600 42 - 87

System specs:
My current desktop is 1280x1024 32bit @75hz
Running WindowsXP Pro with all the latest updates
PC
Intel P4 2Gz 478pin
ASUS P4T-E board with 850 chipset
1 Gig Rambus ram

I did not buy this card just for MOH:AA. I do graphics with Photoshop 6 and video with Premiere 6. Personally I needed to upgrade my old Geforce2 in my video box. I am putting my GeForce3 in the video box and the new GeForce4 in my main box.

I just downloaded the latest detonator drivers V27.70 and will see if this increases my FPS in MOH:AA.

On a side note. when dragging a large box around my screen I get ~34% CPU usage. Now with the new card. I see under 9%

For the average gamer. I would not upgrade until more games take full advantage of the hardware for this card. This should drive the prices down for a ATI 8500 or GeForce3.

.......i have a pentium computer

How much that cost you?

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$399 + tax

ur lucky. I got a crappy card

Doesn't that just make you mad??? Spent $400 on a graphics card to see little improvement??

I run an Athlon 1800+ with the G3 Ti 200 card, and I have no plans to get the G4 right now.

Why? Because there isn't a game on the planet that needs 128MB ram right now, anyone who upgrades from a G3 or R8500 is paying a huge price for major overkill...

I get 35-90 FPS in MOH with everything maxxed, so I have every reason to wait... When they make games that actually push my system to the limit I'll consider upgrading.

That is sick. I would have a GeForce 4. However, that is, strangely, about what I'm running at now. And my specs are pretty lowly compared to yours. My specs as follows:

1.2 AMD Athlon
GeForce2 GTS 32mb DDR
1024 MB RAM
60 Gig 7200 RPM HD
etc etc etc

All my settings are at max, too. I find this very very odd. You have, in my opinion, a super computer. What a beast man, like the old Chargers... Damn. They're going to have to get a benchmark for MOHAA so we can really see the diff...

AC

That is allot!

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rudedog youre not going to see an improvemnt at that low a resolution. bump it up to 1280x1024 or even go to 1600x1200. youll see a big improvment at higher resolutions.

The Geforce 2 Ti 64Mb cards will be sufficient for the next year or so until developers start taking full advantage of the Geforce 3 and 4 technology available. Until then, especially with current crop of games coming out (using the Quake 3 engine, SoF 2 and Jedi Knight 2) all that is really needed is a Geforce 2. Save your cash and/or upgrade your CPU, RAM, Mobo.

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Uh lucky basterd,I got a 16 mb nvidia vanta lt.Tho i dont get one thing,i thought those top cards would get u atleast 110 fps in like omaha WITH EVERY THING ON HIGH.Wtf,So they made a game that like no card out right now can run very smooth with no skipping? heh i dont get it,But i got my texture on medium and full model view,and highest model detail,LOL

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by madrebel:
[quote:cea98]Originally posted by Swill1496:
Uh lucky basterd,I got a 16 mb nvidia vanta lt.Tho i dont get one thing,i thought those top cards would get u atleast 110 fps in like omaha WITH EVERY THING ON HIGH.Wtf,So they made a game that like no card out right now can run very smooth with no skipping? heh i dont get it,But i got my texture on medium and full model view,and highest model detail,LOL <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>its would if this game wasnt coded my monkeys. this game runs like complete crap comared to similar games.

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That was uncalled for. And really, your a "monkey" yourself, your literacy skills are that of a baboon.
Yes it runs rather sluggish, and may not have been optimised completely for the broad range of computers out there, but they (2015) have done a fantastic job otherwise.


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[This message has been edited by BallisticWookie (edited March 04, 2002).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BallisticWookie:
That was uncalled for. And really, your a "monkey" yourself, your literacy skills are that of a baboon.
Yes it runs rather sluggish, and may not have been optimised completely for the broad range of computers out there, but they (2015) have done a fantastic job otherwise.

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Hahaha well said Ballistic, tell the baboon http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif



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Why do all peaple go buy all fancy graphcards, when Ram memory does so much more. Get a gig in Ram, and see the diffrance!!! My friend had GF3, i got GF2 and the diffrance is he paid about 350$ for his card, i got a GF2 64MB which i paid 95$!! and my graphics is better because i got more mem!!!

See you guys infront of my crosshair
Private Chicken

I can't believe that I pre-ordered $400 worth of crap for a frickin extra 11FPS. . .Ill post my specs n sheet when I get my card tommarrow. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/tongue.gif

~FOG|Bazooka_Joe

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I cant believe you got a killer card and system like that and you dont run everything.

I have just a plain gf3, p4, ddr system and run everything maxed, shadows, smoke, lighting, the works. still get 90 fps

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<-------really doesn't care about your computer specs or overpriced video card. Rich white kids who make their parents buy all these expensive toys. Take off those coke bottle glasses and squeeze them nasty white heads boy! Ever had a girfriend or do you spend all day jerking off in front of your overpriced computer? HAHA

Ur an idiot for saying that ,We like this stuff ok? and Yes i have a gf u sick insested anal penatrating goat blower,Shut up and leave those alone that like to do these things,And ya know what,U CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO WHY BOTHER,
And plus just because maybe ur parents couldnt afford stuff and u sat and cried and now u got a crap job dont meen to spoil it for the people WHO HAVE A GOOD LIFE,so bug someone else,
Anyways,my 16 mb vanta is ok,but i would love a 64 mb,I have a question,is the geforce 4 mx worth buying for 132 bux? it only has 2.4 gigs per second,while the gf3ti200 is like 170 at bestbuy and it has 6.4 gps,hehe

Ur an idiot for saying that ,We like this stuff ok? and Yes i have a gf u sick insested anal penatrating goat blower,Shut up and leave those alone that like to do these things,And ya know what,U CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO WHY BOTHER,
And plus just because maybe ur parents couldnt afford stuff and u sat and cried and now u got a crap job dont meen to spoil it for the people WHO HAVE A GOOD LIFE,so bug someone else,
Anyways,my 16 mb vanta is ok,but i would love a 64 mb,I have a question,is the geforce 4 mx worth buying for 132 bux? it only has 2.4 gigs per second,while the gf3ti200 is like 170 at bestbuy and it has 6.4 gps,hehe

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Private Chicken:
Why do all peaple go buy all fancy graphcards, when Ram memory does so much more. Get a gig in Ram, and see the diffrance!!! My friend had GF3, i got GF2 and the diffrance is he paid about 350$ for his card, i got a GF2 64MB which i paid 95$!! and my graphics is better because i got more mem!!!

See you guys infront of my crosshair
Private Chicken<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>above 256megs total, ram makes little difference in games.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Swill1496:
Ur an idiot for saying that ,We like this stuff ok? and Yes i have a gf u sick insested anal penatrating goat blower,Shut up and leave those alone that like to do these things,And ya know what,U CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO WHY BOTHER,
And plus just because maybe ur parents couldnt afford stuff and u sat and cried and now u got a crap job dont meen to spoil it for the people WHO HAVE A GOOD LIFE,so bug someone else,
Anyways,my 16 mb vanta is ok,but i would love a 64 mb,I have a question,is the geforce 4 mx worth buying for 132 bux? it only has 2.4 gigs per second,while the gf3ti200 is like 170 at bestbuy and it has 6.4 gps,hehe <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
get the gf3 ti 200 its a faster card.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Private Chicken:
Why do all peaple go buy all fancy graphcards, when Ram memory does so much more. Get a gig in Ram, and see the diffrance!!! My friend had GF3, i got GF2 and the diffrance is he paid about 350$ for his card, i got a GF2 64MB which i paid 95$!! and my graphics is better because i got more mem!!!

A GF3 has 64mb of ram, and you're not going to notice mutch difference if you stick a GF3 into an old P2 330mz machine.
See you guys infront of my crosshair
Private Chicken<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



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Fear is the weakness of the mind. Remember that next time you see me on the battlefield.-ShellShock

I am a big gammer, not to spend that much

Abit makes a GeForce4 MX 64MB DDR.

I saw it in a computer shop for $115 USD.

the geforce4 MX cards are total ass. dont buy one. save and or spend more money for the better cards. it will last longer.

Get a life bitch

I just dont understand anyone would buy a video card costing $400 US just to get 10 fps more in MOH:AA. Thats crazy....
I'm getting a Geforce 3 Ti500 when Battlefield comes out.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stellarpeace:
<-------really doesn't care about your computer specs or overpriced video card. Rich white kids who make their parents buy all these expensive toys. Take off those coke bottle glasses and squeeze them nasty white heads boy! Ever had a girfriend or do you spend all day jerking off in front of your overpriced computer? HAHA<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow what a useful post. Guess what, I am the parent, LOL you are funny.

I guess mommy and daddy did not get you anything for Christmas so, your still upset. Oh well.

Like I said before, I did not get this card just for MOH. I was kind enough to post my finding on this site, so the "kids" who saved up the money to buy a new card would know what the are getting into. See we are not all as selfish as you.

Don't worry maybe next year if your a good little boy - //Taps stellarpeace on top of head


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** update **

Upped the res to 1200x1600 and only lost about 16fps.

Omaha map at 1200x1600 getting an average of 57 fps.
Movement skips just slightly at this res but does look awesome.

Hey rudedog m8, post us some 3DMark2k1 scores! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

BTW: Nice constructive post, thanks for information.

Will do, as someone posted before. I will also try increasing the res.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BallisticWookie:
That was uncalled for. And really, your a "monkey" yourself, your literacy skills are that of a baboon.
Yes it runs rather sluggish, and may not have been optimised completely for the broad range of computers out there, but they (2015) have done a fantastic job otherwise.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>dont nitpick spelling when you cant understand the difference between youre and your.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Swill1496:
Uh lucky basterd,I got a 16 mb nvidia vanta lt.Tho i dont get one thing,i thought those top cards would get u atleast 110 fps in like omaha WITH EVERY THING ON HIGH.Wtf,So they made a game that like no card out right now can run very smooth with no skipping? heh i dont get it,But i got my texture on medium and full model view,and highest model detail,LOL <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>its would if this game wasnt coded my monkeys. this game runs like complete crap comared to similar games.

400 U.S. bucks? Damn for that amount I can probably get a machine gun or sumfin and play Mohaa in my neighborhood and shoot my loud neighbors who wont stfu about hockey lol