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Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 09:51 AM

Iraq Says Work of UN Weapons Inspections Over
 
DUBAI (Reuters) - Iraq's information minister said on Monday U.N. weapons inspectors had completed their work in the country before they left four years ago and there was no need for them to return.


Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf told Arabic al-Jazeera satellite television: "The work of inspection teams in Iraq had been completed."

He added that an Iraqi invitation for an "equitable dialogue" with the United Nations ( news - web sites) had not included an offer for the return of inspectors.

Sahaf said Baghdad could "easily" refute U.S. claims that it was developing weapons of mass destruction (:roll:) .
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If they can refute our claims than why dont they let the inspecters in.....man these guys really do want an ass whoopin!

08-12-2002 09:53 AM

sure sound innocent to me :roll:

SW-14 08-12-2002 11:28 AM

Even if they let the inspectors in, they wouldn't find anything. I'm guessing they have all of their junk in some cave or underground bunker.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 11:31 AM

[quote="SW-14":136ee]Even if they let the inspectors in, they wouldn't find anything. I'm guessing they have all of their junk in some cave or underground bunker.[/quote:136ee]

Or under hospitals and schools.

ninty 08-12-2002 11:32 AM

Don't worry about it.

Wether Bush has support from his people or not, wether his allies support him or not, wether YOU like it or not, wether I like it or not, Saddam will be gone soon enough.

SW-14 08-12-2002 11:35 AM

Bush has to finish what his father didn't. Expect the attack.

Sicilian_Summers 08-12-2002 12:23 PM

[quote="SW-14":190b9]Bush has to finish what his father didn't. Expect the attack.[/quote:190b9]

we didnt go into iraq because it wasnt our objective. nobody didnt finish anything. why risk losing more men when we can go home safely and have the iraqis out of kuwait.

you're probably going to say something like... look at saddamm now. well, look at the US, UK, Canada, Australia, etc. now. we have the full backing of UN (most likely) because of the fact weapons inspectors have not been allowed into the country for...4 years i believe.

geRV 08-12-2002 12:40 PM

I really have to laugh at how people seem to think the american forces are just gonna wipe them out without any trouble. If i recall the same attitude was prevelant about vietnam where america got its ass handed to it. :roll:

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
I really have to laugh at how people seem to think the american forces are just gonna wipe them out without any trouble. If i recall the same attitude was prevelant about vietnam where america got its ass handed to it. :roll:

ACTUALLY, Iraqs army is has alot of young kids and old farts, and the Arab community has already stated that his army is crap, in the last war they surrenderd to a tv crew and to promises of bananas.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
I really have to laugh at how people seem to think the american forces are just gonna wipe them out without any trouble. If i recall the same attitude was prevelant about vietnam where america got its ass handed to it. :roll:

Our asses hand to us, you do know that we never lost a major battle to the N.veitnamese. We pulled out because of lack of goverment support and those dumbass peacenicks.

SW-14 08-12-2002 01:02 PM

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":43c48][quote="SW-14":43c48]Bush has to finish what his father didn't. Expect the attack.[/quote:43c48]

we didnt go into iraq because it wasnt our objective. nobody didnt finish anything. why risk losing more men when we can go home safely and have the iraqis out of kuwait.
[/quote:43c48]

No, I mean that they should have gotten Saddam out of power back in '91.

Sicilian_Summers 08-12-2002 02:16 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":e89b8]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
I really have to laugh at how people seem to think the american forces are just gonna wipe them out without any trouble. If i recall the same attitude was prevelant about vietnam where america got its ass handed to it. :roll:

Our asses hand to us, you do know that we never lost a major battle to the N.veitnamese. We pulled out because of lack of goverment support and those dumbass peacenicks.[/quote:e89b8]

that and the fact we were fighting a war of attrition (i believe) we kill 1000NVAs and loose 100... they are bound to surrender sometime... or so they thought. 100 men for a cause not supported by anyone is 100 men too many.

FWB 08-12-2002 02:24 PM

America would win a war against Iraq, but only because it would feature:

1) A flat, no-vegetation cover, no cloud landscape
2) An enemy fighting a convential war... that is no guerilla tactics. This is linked to 1) though.

America relies too much on technology (alot of which is not very good anyway). A campaign against Iraq would be the ideal conditions for this though.

FWB 08-12-2002 02:34 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":2d359][quote=Gerard]I really have to laugh at how people seem to think the american forces are just gonna wipe them out without any trouble. If i recall the same attitude was prevelant about vietnam where america got its ass handed to it. :roll:[/quote]

Our asses hand to us, you do know that we never lost a major battle to the N.veitnamese. We pulled out because of lack of goverment support and those dumbass peacenicks.[/quote:2d359]

Mate, you lost that war. Claiming it was a withdrawl is a lame excuse. The goal of the US was to maintain control, the goal of the N.Vietnamese was to take it. They achieved their objects, you failed in yours.

As for blaming it on the peace protestors (who were the only sensible minds in the country at the time) and government support, well that is a poor comment to. Even if the US had nuked the country it would have lost the war. Why? Because every other nation on this planet would have complained and demanded the US move out, which it would have done.

I did a very quick internet search and here are some links suggesting why the US lost:

[url="http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/09-23-98.html"]http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/09-23-98.html[/url]
(Economic policy forced upon the S.Vietnamese)

http://free.hostdepartment.com/benno/vietnamessay.html
(Gives a variety of reasons, but suggests the Vietname passion was a major force)

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 02:53 PM

Yes the peace protesters were so cool :roll: , they treated returning soldiers like shit, I have no respect for those cowards. WE DID FAIL because of lack of support if more troops were sent in and the bombing continued we would have succeded. At least i am proud of my country, and dont hide were I am from.

Low spark 08-12-2002 03:14 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":579a8]Yes the peace protesters were so cool :roll: , they treated returning soldiers like shit, I have no respect for those cowards. WE DID FAIL because of lack of support if more troops were sent in and the bombing continued we would have succeded. At least i am proud of my country, and dont hide were I am from.[/quote:579a8]

Green your age is showing. The solider's were treated like crap by more the just the peace protesters. I met quite a few Nam vets who protested the war themselves. The were treated like crap by the general populace, A Nam vet would go into the local VFW at the time of the war and be shunned by the vets. We were fighting in a war we had no business being in. When the Vet's came home, for several years our government did almost nothing to help the re-adjust to civilian life. Some of these unfornate people never did re-adjust.
Say what you like Green, You were'nt even a twinkle in your mother's eye yet. Pride in your country does not mean you have to follow it current leaders blindly.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 03:26 PM

I follow no one blindly, Its just great to have a president now that is'nt afraid to take action unlike Blow job Bill who only wanted his cock sucked by some fat skank while firing cruise missles st asprin factorys, him and his tree hugging vice president were a disgrace.

Low spark 08-12-2002 03:44 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":4596f]I follow no one blindly, Its just great to have a president now that is'nt afraid to take action unlike Blow job Bill who only wanted his cock sucked by some fat skank while firing cruise missles st asprin factorys, him and his tree hugging vice president were a disgrace.[/quote:4596f]
That's good Green, you didn't like Clinton, well I didn't like a lot of things Clinton did either. Big deal.... I'm not going to bother you with my thoughts on Bush, because it would make you angry and waste my breath.
And I know you follow noone blindy, I think your eyes are wide open, that's what really scares me.
Remember being Proud Americans one of our greatest freedoms is the freedom of speech.

Have good day Green.
And don't shut those eyes there's alot of things to be seen.

FWB 08-12-2002 03:46 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":91df0]Yes the peace protesters were so cool :roll: , they treated returning soldiers like shit, I have no respect for those cowards. WE DID FAIL because of lack of support if more troops were sent in and the bombing continued we would have succeded. At least i am proud of my country, and dont hide were I am from.[/quote:91df0]

Low Spark has really said all I would say in response to this, but let me just add one more thing. Those peace protestors showed more lvoe for their country than anyone else at the time. They were willing to go to the streets, screaming at the top of the voice because of the crap that was going on. They wanted to make their country a better place.

Just because someone isn't gung-ho and all for killing farmers in a far off land doesn't mean they hate their country. It means they want their nation to represent something else.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWB
Just because someone isn't gung-ho and all for killing farmers in a far off land doesn't mean they hate their country. It means they want their nation to represent something else.

We did not go there to kill farmers, I am really sick of this crap, people are always making us out to be worse than the nazis :roll:

P.S. FWB were do you reside?

FWB 08-12-2002 03:51 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":882f3]
Quote:

Originally Posted by FWB
Just because someone isn't gung-ho and all for killing farmers in a far off land doesn't mean they hate their country. It means they want their nation to represent something else.

We did not go there to kill farmers, I am really sick of this crap, people are always making us out to be worse than the nazis :roll: [/quote:882f3]

I wasn't refering to just Vietnam, but yes, you did kill farmers, women and children.

[quote:882f3]P.S. FWB were do you reside?[/quote:882f3]

Does it matter? From the sound of things I know more about your county than you ever will.

I live in the UK, but have lived inthe US, among other place around the world, for three years.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 03:55 PM

I meant nothing by asking were your located just wondering, And I really doubt you know more about my countrys history than I, and I bet the brits havent done anything regretable before huh?

Old Reliable 08-12-2002 03:57 PM

The topic's on Sodamn Insane not Nam

FWB 08-12-2002 03:57 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":95f76]I meant nothing by asking were your located just wondering, And I really doubt you know more about my countrys history than I, and [/quote:95f76]

I doubt it. Judging from your comments you are still quite young (no insult, just an observation). I have the years, the interest and, most importantly, the qualifications (I really didn't want to drop that one in, but I will ;) ).

[quote:95f76]I bet the brits havent done anything regretable before huh?[/quote:95f76]

I wonder... did you make that comment because you thought I was a Brit? Because you'd be wrong there. Besides which, no one here has claimed Britain was perfect either.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 03:59 PM

alright, enough about Nam, back on topic SADDAM HUSSAIN.

FWB 08-12-2002 04:02 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":7d49e]alright, enough about Nam, back on topic SADDAM HUSSAIN.[/quote:7d49e]

Quite.

I must say that I would support an invasion of Iraq for a few reasons:

1) We put him there
2) We should've dealt with him in 1991
3) The people of Iraq are suffering. This is the most important issue, and due to 1) and 2) it is our responsibility.

However, I don't think we have a legal cause for going. The most dominating issue at stake though is that I really don't think a better regime will be put in if he is overthrown.

Old Reliable 08-12-2002 04:04 PM

Well he is obviously hiding something...I'm not sure if an INVASION would be the choice. Pressure him with talks etc.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 04:06 PM

We arent going to take him out for legal reasons were going to get him because he is an Insane, murdering,famliy killing bastard. We may have helped assent but its not our fault he's insane he decieved us.

mr.miyagi 08-12-2002 04:50 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":de285]Yes the peace protesters were so cool :roll: , they treated returning soldiers like shit, I have no respect for those cowards. WE DID FAIL because of lack of support if more troops were sent in and the bombing continued we would have succeded. At least i am proud of my country, and dont hide were I am from.[/quote:de285]

Pfc.Green, you're as cheesey as your sigs, hehe

Rumsfeld Warns Of Imminent Attack
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has told the world to expect an attack with a weapon of mass destruction.
His warning came just hours before Saddam Hussein made a televised address to the Iraqi people.

The Iraqi leader has said he won't allow UN inspectors unlimited access to the country amid fears he might have access to such weapons.
While Mr Rumsfeld was certain that an attack will happen, he wasn't so sure what the US should do about it.

He said the "margin for error" was tiny and any response risked affecting hundreds of thousands of people.

But he was adamant that the issue had to be addressed.

"People have to expect there will be an event involving a weapon of mass destruction at some point in the future," Mr Rumsfeld said.

:o PANIC!!!! :o

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 04:53 PM

[quote="mr.miyagi

Pfc.Green, you're as cheesey as your sigs, hehe

[/quote]

whats cheesy about my sig?

mr.miyagi 08-12-2002 04:57 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":c4db9]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "mr.miyagi

Pfc.Green, you're as cheesey as your sigs, hehe

[/quote:c4db9

whats cheesy about my sig?

i'll let you off with that one but usually you have huge blocks and packets of flaming patriotic cheese. but thats jus an opinion

now get back to the apples agenda :)

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "mr.miyagi


i'll let you off with that one but usually you have huge blocks and packets of flaming patriotic cheese. but thats jus an opinion

now get back to the apples agenda :)

WTF? my sigs never our offensive, belegirent or have anything to do with flaming I just like to show my support for my country :-?

08-12-2002 05:08 PM

you'll get used to it, just say something along the lines of "don't like my sig, hey, FUCK YOU" in there.

Low spark 08-12-2002 05:13 PM

I wouldn't get worked up about it Green your sigs are fine. There not offensive like some of them out there.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 05:14 PM

[quote="Low spark":c313f]I wouldn't get worked up about it Green your sigs are fine. There not offensive like some of them out there.[/quote:c313f]

Im not worked up, it just caught me off guard.

Low spark 08-12-2002 05:35 PM

Well to get back to Iraq, I think that Saddam just be removed, but again I say I do not think the U.S. should do it. It's easy for us to sit over here and say if we remove Saddam then the government that WE install will represent Iraq. Well, maybe most of the people of Iraq would like to see Saddam gone, but I don't think that the U.S. loved, by the people there any more the Saddam, after a decade of hardships because of the sanctions imposed on them. We can sit over here and say it Saddams fault that those sanctions were started in the first place. But we are sitting over here not in Iraq. I do not think the people of Iraq or the surrounding nations are going to want the U.S. controling Iraq. Which means that that other countries will be drawn into a this(and I don't mean on the U.S. side)
Eventually, we are talking a Religous War, Islam against the U.S.
Our government has proven time and again that its understanding of the Arab culture is limited. It would be a major mistake to alienate them by
invading Iraq.
Of course, I personally beleive that is what some very powerful people in Armerica secretly want, those dirty filfthy Muslim's taking care of finally.


I know, I know, I'm wrong.

Pfc.Green 08-12-2002 05:41 PM

The arab world has proven time and again that its understanding of the western culture is limited.

mr.miyagi 08-12-2002 05:53 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":53400]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "mr.miyagi


i'll let you off with that one but usually you have huge blocks and packets of flaming patriotic cheese. but thats jus an opinion

now get back to the apples agenda :)[/quote:53400]

WTF? my sigs never our offensive, belegirent or have anything to do with flaming I just like to show my support for my country :-?

jeez Green, i was kidding!!!!!!!! i never said anything bad about ur sigs or anything, all i said was they're cheesey to me thats all. calm, oh and the term flaming i used wasn't about forum type flaming, jus about cheese in flames that all, im stupid. :lol:

Low spark 08-12-2002 05:53 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":b17c2]The arab world has proven time and again that its understanding of the western culture is limited.[/quote:b17c2]

Your probably right.

Now could you explain Western "culture" to me.

SW-14 08-12-2002 05:56 PM

You know, I would be willing to bet that the common folks in the U.S. and Arabic countries would get along just fine with each other.


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