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Chronic Diarrhea 09-05-2002 03:00 PM

How does the Thompson compare with modern day weapons?
 
I've always wondered how the Thompson SMG compares with current day weapons like the M-16, AK-74, etc... Now I know those two weapons are assault rifles, but how does the Tommy compare with something like a HK MP-5?

Milla 09-05-2002 03:03 PM

Tommy uses .45 bullets, plus its heavy its more of an SMG. But its still a great gun, but the MP5 is more comparable to it, and the MP5 is better oOo:

Pfc.Green 09-05-2002 03:54 PM

TOMMY GUN KICKS ASS!

rudedog 09-05-2002 07:14 PM

I own both version of the guns mentioned. ( semi auto )

The Thompson packs a punch but is much heavier and is not as accurate as the MP5. I do not know how someone carried the Thompson with extra clips. For a prolonged time. The nice thing is the cal. ( .45 ACP ) is a very good stopping round and will not travel beyond a room or through a person.
Were a smaller caliber like the 9MM parabelum(spelling?) can exit a victim when not using hollow points.

The MP5 is probably the worlds best anti terrorist / SWAT weapon in use today. This gun is so reliable and accurate. I can hit a reactive metal target at 75 yards over and over again without any recoil what so ever. Threw iron sites. ( can't see the laser pointer at that range during the day )

But as for fun factor, you can't beat the Tommy gun. My 10 year old daughter loves shooting it at the gun range. ( getting her ready for dating )

mikecs18 09-05-2002 07:21 PM

well... the thompson would be perfect except...

its got wood componants, no longer mass produced, heavy bullets, not nato standard, too heavy, not compadible with a wooden stock or silencer, lacked in accuracy, hefty recoil, (compared to modern day smgs) not reliable enough... fire1:

other than those reaspons it'd be perfect biggrin:

Milla 09-05-2002 07:25 PM

Your 10 yr old daughter fires a thompson... ed: WTF?! its like 11 lbs lol how can she hold it?! not to mention the kick of it

09-05-2002 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
The MP5 is probably the worlds best anti terrorist / SWAT weapon in use today. This gun is so reliable and accurate. I can hit a reactive metal target at 75 yards over and over again without any recoil what so ever. Threw iron sites. ( can't see the laser pointer at that range during the day )

I think the MP-5 might be getting displaced by the P-90 sometime soon (already happened on Stargate SG-1 biggrin: )

Vance 09-05-2002 07:35 PM

LOL

09-05-2002 07:36 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":5001c]Your 10 yr old daughter fires a thompson... ed: WTF?! its like 11 lbs lol how can she hold it?! not to mention the kick of it[/quote:5001c]

izz semi auto version ya foo

Milla 09-05-2002 07:40 PM

whatever strik0r u dyke0r biggrin: P90 is gay MP5 all the way!

rudedog 09-06-2002 05:25 AM

My daughter is very tall for 10 years old.

Here she is at the range.
[img]http://members.cox.net/jlandi/N.jpg[/img]

As for the being heavy. AutoArdence who still produces Thompson's Has a aluminum version
http://www.auto-ordnance.com/ao_m1c_f.html
They got the weight down to 8lbs ( still very heavy )
You can purchase a semi auto for ~700-800 US

09-06-2002 08:19 AM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":f3ac4]whatever strik0r u dyke0r biggrin: P90 is gay MP5 all the way![/quote:f3ac4]

first, tell me that when I shoot you through 12 layers of Kevlar with the P-90

second, you confused me with Strikor (the admin) get ready for a banning biggrin:

con Brio 09-06-2002 10:55 AM

RUDEDOG!!!

i was wondering, what the tommy gun sound like? Does it sound like the tommy sound in mohaa? or does it sound like the tommy in SPR? or does it sound like some other sound mod that u can tell us about?

thanks

Milla 09-06-2002 12:56 PM

strik0r is no admin u dirty ass muncher! fire1: biggrin:

rudedog 09-06-2002 02:06 PM

Personally I think the sound in MOH is very close. In SPR your never "behind the gun" like when your playing MOH.

With that said, I also think SPR does a very very good job at capturing what a real one sounds

Here are some links to real weapons firing. Give them a sec to load.
BAR - http://www.bigjimsmgs.com/VIDEOS99/BAR2.AVI
Thompson (This is an early savage model, please note the recoil or lake of) - http://www.bigjimsmgs.com/VIDEOS99/28savage.avi
For all you RTKW -flame thrower http://www.bigjimsmgs.com/VIDEOS99/flame2.avi


The other problem is when ever I go to the range, I have to shoot from inside that building you see. Thus we must always were Ear protection, along with eye protection. I have fire full auto Thompson's at the gun store in Las Vegas and it's the same deal, firing inside with ear protection.

Chronic Diarrhea 09-06-2002 02:47 PM

Is that you shooting the Tommy Rudedog?

09-06-2002 03:02 PM

rudedog.. can u adopt me or something

rudedog 09-06-2002 04:18 PM

LOL Chronic, that's my daughter

sorry Anti, I already have enough kids for now. biggrin:

Tbry23m 09-06-2002 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
But as for fun factor, you can't beat the Tommy gun. My 10 year old daughter loves shooting it at the gun range. ( getting her ready for dating )

Wow okay better tell her next boyfriend just so he doesn't screw up. Cause its no fair to die without any warning biggrin: lol.

Whats your last name landi?
Make sure i never go out with any girls with that name. (ya know shes only two years younger

Innoxx 09-06-2002 06:33 PM

The P90 is good, but i wanna try out that mp-7, that thing is tiny. Thompson was good for its time but nothing compared to modern smg's like the mp5 series, p90, ump, in fact id say the ump is more of an equivilent to the thompson. P90 is a good weapon if you shoot at kevlar wearing soldiers in your spare time. Another thing why is the colt "commando" (m4 veriant with short barrel) classified as an smg? it fires 5.56mm.

Chronic Diarrhea 09-06-2002 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
LOL Chronic, that's my daughter

sorry Anti, I already have enough kids for now. biggrin:

HA, no I meant in the video. Man I wish I could have been able to shoot automatic weapons when I was 10 years old?

Chronic Diarrhea 09-06-2002 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
LOL Chronic, that's my daughter

sorry Anti, I already have enough kids for now. biggrin:

HA, no I meant in the video. Man I wish I could have been able to shoot automatic weapons when I was 10 years old.

rudedog 09-07-2002 04:32 AM

sorry, mis understood you.

No that is not me in any of those video's, That's an old site I use to go to for references on some older , rarer firearms

My Thompson is semi auto as RI does not allow full auto :(

RandomSkater 09-07-2002 05:38 AM

are you sure you dont want an extra son??? i mow lawns *wink wink*

Von Paulus 09-07-2002 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandomSkater
are you sure you dont want an extra son??? i mow lawns *wink wink*

oOo: And we all know what that means...

Anyone see Gods and Monsters ??

Necrology 09-07-2002 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
The MP5 is probably the worlds best anti terrorist / SWAT weapon in use today. This gun is so reliable and accurate. I can hit a reactive metal target at 75 yards over and over again without any recoil what so ever. Threw iron sites. ( can't see the laser pointer at that range during the day )

im not a big gun expert (not at all), but I read a few weeks ago in the paper of a gun named Tabur or Tambur (in hebrew) that was developed by the Israel Army, and was found to be better than the M4
now is the M4 considered to be better than the MP5 cause im really cluless about the whole issue


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