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Mope 09-07-2002 02:00 PM

i got my new computer!
 
yay, finally, after lots of bitching and whining. I FINALLY got my new pc :D.

P4 2.0Ghz
512MB DDR RAM
Geforce 4 Ti46000
Creative Soundblaster sound card
logitec z-560 4.1 surround speakers


lol, i was playing bf1942, i ran like 50 fps with 32 people on max settings. (i haven't installed mohaa yet, i don't have the other disk)

only 1 problem is when i try to go to bf42.com, its always in german. i can't seem to get it in english like i had it before. (yes, it says english on the adress bar)

rudedog 09-07-2002 02:12 PM

Good luck with your new PC

sounds nice. Oh and we will not hold the " I have not installed moh yet" against you

j/k

Mope 09-07-2002 02:17 PM

thanks, do you know whats wrong with bf42.com? cause on my old computer it was english, now its in german, is it just me or is it everyone?

Oldguy 09-07-2002 02:22 PM

If you are talking about EA's 1942 site , It's in english for me . You didn't buy that new computer by mail order from Germany did you ?? biggrin:

Star85 09-07-2002 02:22 PM

Its right for me, English.

You comp is the same exact specs as mine. Nice! eatthis:

Mope 09-07-2002 02:32 PM

i mean http://www.bf42.com

Necrology 09-07-2002 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mope

English..
and congrats on your new PC
how I envy you eek:

Mope 09-07-2002 04:00 PM

arugh
 
arugh.. i cant go to english forums either... can one of u guys give me a link to the forums?

Webb 09-07-2002 04:01 PM

English too fire1: angel:

Oldguy 09-07-2002 04:08 PM

That one is english for me too.

Mope 09-07-2002 05:08 PM

y0 781g4-87q rdamn... it was english for my old pc.. man... arugh.... darn windows xp.. can someone get me a link to the english forums?

Oldguy 09-07-2002 05:20 PM

Okay , see if this works.

http://www.acomba.de/forums/index.php

Mope 09-07-2002 05:27 PM

THANK YOU OLDGUY!

Oldguy 09-07-2002 05:30 PM

You are quite welcome , glad it worked.

goneaway 09-07-2002 08:29 PM

YOU BOUGHT A PENTIUM 2.0GHZ!?!? YOU'RE FRICKIN STUPID....ITS CALLED AMD, GET A BRAIN. YOU COULDA GOTTEN A 2200 PLUS FOR HALF THE FUCKIN PRICE OF THAT 2.0 PENTIUM AND YOU WOULDA GOTTEN BETTER PERFORMANCE...I DONT ENVY YOU, I PITY YOU. BYE.

fire2: honda ricers M16:

r3mix 09-07-2002 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goneaway
YOU BOUGHT A PENTIUM 2.0GHZ!?!? YOU'RE FRICKIN STUPID....ITS CALLED AMD, GET A BRAIN. YOU COULDA GOTTEN A 2200 PLUS FOR HALF THE FUCKIN PRICE OF THAT 2.0 PENTIUM AND YOU WOULDA GOTTEN BETTER PERFORMANCE...I DONT ENVY YOU, I PITY YOU. BYE.

using nothing more than the stock Intel heatsink/fan and settings in the BIOS you can overclock that CPU over 2.8ghz. if you think that AMD has anything on the market that can come anywhere near that for performance......



















..... youre friggin stupid oOo:

r3mix

09-07-2002 10:58 PM

WHAT A JACKASS
 
[quote="goneaway"]YOU BOUGHT A PENTIUM 2.0GHZ!?!? YOU'RE FRICKIN STUPID....ITS CALLED AMD, GET A BRAIN. YOU COULDA GOTTEN A 2200 PLUS FOR HALF THE FUCKIN PRICE OF THAT 2.0 PENTIUM AND YOU WOULDA GOTTEN BETTER PERFORMANCE...I DONT ENVY YOU, I PITY YOU. BYE.

pay no attention to the idiot..there one in every crowd..and around here we got more then our share...going with the p4 aint a bad idea..the amd might be a little cheaper...but its not as stable as what you have...besides..anyone who knows what there talkin about will tell you you couldnt tell the difference between the 2 anyway...there both at the top of there game...you could debate that till the cows come home but in the end it comes down to personal prefference..CONGRATULATIONS...i hope you enjoy yours as much as i do mine...BUTCHER

goneaway 09-08-2002 12:10 AM

dude, seriously now....pentiums may have BIG NUMBERS but face it, they aint got shit for performance. now, dont get me wrong, i know pentium has put out DECENT shit...but come on, AMD is obviously the way to go. i think you need to stop watching gateway commercials on t.v. and gettin brainwashed. its so sad to see guys like you go down the drain going to a 400 dollar p 4. an AMD 2200+ could so easily whoop on a 2.0 ghz p4. go do some research and stop letting ur brain get raped by dell. bye bye. swordfight:

-atticus- 09-08-2002 12:59 AM

agreeing with goneaway on this one...although he is a bastard. but AMD does put out better processors in my opinion.

r3mix 09-08-2002 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goneaway
dude, seriously now....pentiums may have BIG NUMBERS but face it, they aint got shit for performance. now, dont get me wrong, i know pentium has put out DECENT shit...but come on, AMD is obviously the way to go. i think you need to stop watching gateway commercials on t.v. and gettin brainwashed. its so sad to see guys like you go down the drain going to a 400 dollar p 4. an AMD 2200+ could so easily whoop on a 2.0 ghz p4. go do some research and stop letting ur brain get raped by dell. bye bye. swordfight:

i built the current computer i have from scratch and also the one i am putting together as an upgrade..... we have no dell adverts on tv..... thats your deal.

now back to the point about performance..... do you really wanna continue this conversation with me that a CPU with a clock speed of 1.8ghz will perform better than one running at 2.8ghz+ ?

seriously man does that even to misinformed primates thats gonna be a stretch to hold onto.

now thats an overclock..... however as i said its using nothing other than the stock HSF and bios settings. AMD can also be o/c but unlike P4 you are now dealing with manually cutting/joining parts on your cpu as well as filling in the trench the nex XPs come with. this is not something either of us can assume your standard user is capable of or willing to do.

and if you wanna talk about price.... that AMD XP 2200+ CPU youre talking about is more expensive to get for me than a retail P4 2.4ghz. so comparing its perfomance to the much lower priced P42.0ghz isnt really that bright. comparing costs the P4 model you can get for the same price as an AMD XP 2200+ outperforms the AMD in 3dmark2000, 3dmark2001, quake3 arena, lame mp3, SiSoft Sandra2002 CPU benchmark, SiSoft Sandra2002 Memory benchmark and any other goddamn benchmark that you wanna use. likewise for the overclocked P4 2.0.

*sigh*

i think its pretty clear whos brainwashed here.

r3mix

Innoxx 09-08-2002 02:21 AM

Who gives a fuck?

r3mix 09-08-2002 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoxx
Who gives a fuck?

gee pal maybe the people who show interest in particular threads.

that your deal?
you go click on shit that doesnt interest you so you can tell people that it doesnt interest you?

r3mix

09-08-2002 02:29 AM

sure ur ready for the new comp, but the question is, is the new comp ready for u?

Mr.X 09-08-2002 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germ
sure ur ready for the new comp, but the question is, is the new comp ready for u?

...yes, very valid point....not enough people take the time to see things from the comps point of view....
nice one Germ......[img]http://www.sector101.fsnet.co.uk/yahoo/smileys/22.gif[/img]

09-08-2002 02:47 AM

yes thank u.




peope tell me im crazy but i am not crazy, people tell me im mofo but i aint no mofo and i aint got no crap in my toilet.

Mr.X 09-08-2002 03:39 AM

...are we talking flushing toilet here...?.........

09-08-2002 03:48 AM

that's right time to send this thread down the crapper

r3mix 09-08-2002 09:00 AM

We need a Russell Coight vs Crocodile Hunter poll

r3mix

Sindonesia 09-08-2002 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germ
sure ur ready for the new comp, but the question is, is the new comp ready for u?

biggrin:

Mope 09-08-2002 01:00 PM

i bought a p4 because i do more than gaming. The p4's are better, the amd's haven't updated there chip size yet. the pentium 3.0's are going to be out in january. amd is junk (for what i do anyway)

{555}Melee 09-08-2002 08:04 PM

[quote:8dd90]now thats an overclock..... however as i said its using nothing other than the stock HSF and bios settings. AMD can also be o/c but unlike P4 you are now dealing with manually cutting/joining parts on your cpu as well as filling in the trench the nex XPs come with. this is not something either of us can assume your standard user is capable of or willing to do. [/quote:8dd90]




oOo: :::::::Melee caucks his head like a confused dog:::::::: oOo:


.............I push button.........gun go boom.........*smile*.........

Pyro 09-08-2002 08:36 PM

cool

Miscguy 09-08-2002 10:20 PM

If that 2.0 P4 is a northwood like mine you can probably overclock it in excess of 3.0 ghz.

"Northwood" is a plant where a .13 micron p4's are produced. The smaller size helps in cooling and the chip can be pushed farther than a standard p4.

Unfortunatly i cant find the thread that followed a guy as he overclocked his 1.6a (a is northwood) to 2.8ghz. Completly stable. He had to upgrade his cooling and a few other tweeks, but it was there and running fine.

[url:0605d]http://forums.anandtech.com/categories.cfm?catid=28&STARTPAGE=1[/url:0605d]

Some good overclocking talk going on there. A thread with a 2.0 at 2.8.

Over all i think you made a fine choice. AMD's are nice chips but typically run a bit hotter and that heat can hamper efforts to over clock them. I did do my research before buying this chip and everything i read put this chip on par or better than the top of the line AMD of that time. 1800xp (clock of 1600)

Now that may sound a bit odd a 2.0 on par with a clock of 1.6. In fact its not odd at all. AMD and Intel have taken differant approaches to gaining speed. Contrary to popular beleif it is not all about clock speed, its all about whats done in 1 clock. So AMD takes the apprach of getting more done per cycle and running fewer cycles. While Intel does less per cycle, but has more cycles.

Its all about your preferance. AMD user will always call Intel users idiots. The fact of the matter is that Intell has made vast improvments with there latest chips and they are untouchable with an AMD. The 512 FSB was a big step with the 2.52ghz P4. Now AMD will up theres and continue on. The fact is buy what you think is right for you. Because tomorrow there will be something better than what was the best the day before, and what you bought will be shunned by all.

Arkan 09-08-2002 11:59 PM

Well, to change the subject a lil', what do you think of those logitec speakers? I have the Klipsch and they're the best sounding speakers that i heard for the PC. I'm just curious if the logitec can rival the Klipsch in your opinion.

rudedog 09-09-2002 05:22 AM

The only thing that can rival Klipsch is a newer version of Klipsch. I have had many sets of speakers. I am an avid home audio freak.
My Klipsch still amaze me every time I crank up my computer.

geRV 09-09-2002 05:34 AM

If you're into overclocking intel is the way to go. The 1.6a can normally be overclocked to 2.2 ghz, an 600 mhz overclock and thats with the standard heatsink fan.

You wil never see an amd cpu (for the forseeable future) get anywhere near the region of 800mhz more power. 200mhz maybe but even then you need better cooling and anything more than that requires water cooling or a vapochill case which brings the cpu down to minus temperatures. Thats if you want to spend about $800 on a vapochill system.


I built a pc for a friend a couple of night ago with an xp chip, first time ive seen one an it seems to run cooler than my thunderbird. Saying that though i'l prob go the p4 route when upgrading anyway.

Miscguy 09-09-2002 09:10 AM

I like my Logitech speakers. They offer damn good sound, good clearity and a punch. I got the 2 speaker and sub set up since i live in an apartment, but the 4 speaker set sounded amazing in the store. I was so tempted to get it. Then i thought of the complaints i would get playing Mohaa and having shit exploding everywhere.

[url:48a5f]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/productlist&crid=18&countryid=19&languageid=1[/url:48a5f]
(I wanted the big four speaker set)

When i got a set 4 speaker, sub set of Altec lansings in a deal with a computer component i gave those a whirl. They crackled at certain times and all my tweakings couldnt get them to work properly in all situations. On top of that the sub didnt work in Mohaa. Over all i'll never get altec lansing, even free. I went back to my two speaker set of Logitechs.

They work fine and have only given me the best sound quality. Good set of speakers for $50 (us). Only thing wrong is the blue "on" light is so damn bright i have it turned slighty away. Very impressive speakers.

Bazooka_Joe 09-09-2002 09:17 AM

I hate AMD, but I will admit their Athlon XP line is superior to the P4. BUT! But, now the P4 is up to 2.80Ghrz, making it the leading processor right now. In today's top PC's, Athlon's XP 2200 was ONLY outperformed by the P4 2.53Ghrz, and only by about 3 points on http://www.madonion.com's 3DMark 2001. Now sopposevly, the 2.80 beats it by about 106. So, yes the Athlon is good for gaming, but only if you are not going to buy a processor faster than 2.2Ghrz. Anything over that, you can get the P4. Another plus about the Athlon is that it's cheaper.

09-09-2002 09:20 AM

2.8 gigs? What are you HONESTLY running that 800 megs makes ANY kind of difference? I mean I can see you wanting to get the most out of your product before it becomes obsollete but -

Sheesh. 1.2gigs has served me more than well.

Bazooka_Joe 09-09-2002 10:30 AM

MOH is such a system hog that every hertz counts. oOo:

And there's a big difference between 2Ghrz and 2.8. Just try the difference between a 1.3Ghrz P4 and a 2Ghrz. You'll see it.


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