Do first world nations really know the answer?
 

Frist world nations, meaning the U.S., Canada, E.U., and all that other crap I missed, claim that their systems are the best and that they are the countries that know the right way to live. Well do they? These countries ways of life lead to...
Overpopulation
Depletion of natural resources
Bigger holes in the ozone layer
Increase in heat from greenhouse gasses
Basically, if us, the first world nations, keep on living the "right way", we will be fucked by one of those factor, or some of them, or all of them. Also, the earth cannot support our ways of life forever, we will run out of petroleum, and then what? The American way of life doesn't excist anymore. No more electricity, just like in August. Call the middle east medieval, but we're the ones fucked in the end, because we only think of now and not the future. Also don't call me some tree hugger, I'm just looking at facts. Whoever believes that we will someday have a world where everyone lives like people in the first world countries is a moron since that is impossible, because there isn't enough fuel in the world to do that and the planet earth can't support that. Anyway, cold fusion is only fifty years away just like it was fifty years away fifty years ago. Hydrogen requires natural gas. Anyway, back to the neolithic age! Time to find a new way of life.

Re: Do first world nations really know the answer?
 

I absolutely agree with you spooge.

2 Cents - Goes toward a place to put the overflowing population. biggrin:

Well, your right, if we all lived like pygmies there wouldn't be a problem. But its human nature to expand explore discover consume etc, or at lease we like to think it is.

One day we will have to leave this planet, well perhaps not leave but expand to others. It will be possible to do so in the near future.

Who cares, I'll be dead by the time the world crumbles.

Well you say that because you believe that people will always progress technologically, but what if it's already to late to do that? What if we are still one hundred years away from living on other planets, while we will run out of petroleum in about sixty or less, that's what it said in my last year's chemistry book. :)

I think the world will crumble once we all become grandparents, but as I think about it, what's the point of putting all that effort into life, if we're all gonna be screwed by some stupid war where we will be fighting over five barrels of crude oil.

[quote="Recycled Spooge":d5d12] I think the world will crumble once we all become grandparents, but as I think about it, what's the point of putting all that effort into life, if we're all gonna be screwed by some stupid war where we will be fighting over five barrels of crude oil.[/quote:d5d12]

When you put someone in charge who lives to watch people suffer, things like that happen.

[quote=Pyro]When you put someone in charge who lives to watch people suffer, things like that happen.[/quote:067b0]
Damn it Pyro, you like a huge cliche granade. It's like someone throws you into a thread a bunch of cliche shrapnel hits everything.

There'll be no "other planets"....we are hell-bent on forms of progress that are now
undeniably destroying the planet, but nothing can stop us. Third world countries mostly
aspire to "consume" as we do, but in the meanwhile are forced to wipe out their environment
to eek out a living. We would pefer if they remained static and kept their countries pristine
so we can occasionly leave our polluted techno-villes and indulge in travel, which is all part of
the resentment felt toward the west today....why spend money looking to the stars when
when we treat the one planet we know can sustain us like shit...?

no my friends, there'll be no other planets....just extinction, pollution, terror, decay & kaos...
....terror, decay & kaos I tells ya!!!... ed:

[quote="Eight Ace":590f0]There'll be no "other planets"....we are hell-bent on forms of progress that are now
undeniably destroying the planet, but nothing can stop us. Third world countries mostly
aspire to "consume" as we do, but in the meanwhile are forced to wipe out their environment
to eek out a living. We would pefer if they remained static and kept their countries pristine
so we can occasionly leave our polluted techno-villes and indulge in travel, which is all part of
the resentment felt toward the west today....why spend money looking to the stars when
when we treat the one planet we know can sustain us like shit...?

no my friends, there'll be no other planets....just extinction, pollution, terror, decay & kaos...
....terror, decay & kaos I tells ya!!!... ed:[/quote:590f0]
Don't make this into a west vs. east thread. I don't want it to be another nationalist bullshit thread. It has nothing to do with west vs. east, north vs. south, bla bla bla... go somewhere else if you want to have some "hey we kicked your nation's ass in this and that war, and we have free health care and you don't" thread...

I agree with you, however it is too late to change this ideology. Democracy is an institution, and to compete with America...nearly every country must adopt it and grow companies that pollute the air , etc. Hell, if you think America's environmental controls are nothing......take a look at other countries. If we keep making Hummer2's and large trucks that get 1 mpg, we aren't being very economical are we? Then again...we are human

[quote="Recycled Spooge":77322][quote=Pyro]When you put someone in charge who lives to watch people suffer, things like that happen.[/quote:77322]
Damn it Pyro, you like a huge cliche granade. It's like someone throws you into a thread a bunch of cliche shrapnel hits everything.[/quote:77322]

cool:

This is the way I see it:

First World/Industrialised Nations= Your rich-ass uncle that makes so much money that he spends it way too fast, and winds up sitting at the Thanksgiving Table drinking too much wine, and spouting a bunch of shit.

Second World Nations= Undefined. Just what the hell is a Second World Nation? Your single, 40+ sister-in-law that is cruising for any kind of screw???

Third World Nations= The dog crawling on his belly, looking so forlorn as to get sympathy from the First Nationers?


Nah, none of the above.

The one mistake that active, and hence powerful, voting citizens can make is to anthropomorphize an entire nation, let alone a collection of nations. Think about that for a minute. If you begin to think of your cozy little nation, with it's seeming advanced, righteous ways of doing things, is a seperate entity from the rest of the world, you individualize your nation, and yourself, from the rest of the world. Seperatism is not a viable factor anymore. With the continuous flow of information, on a 24-7 basis, there is nothing left to distinguish us from each other.

However, the one mistake that Governments can make is to NOT think their Nation is a collective of individuals, making up one single body. This is where the anthropomorphization can be a good thing. Nationalism has proven to be a uplifitng factor in a Nation's well-being. The collective well-wishing and active work to bring about the best of your 'country'. In other words, a huge group of individuals coming together to act as one for a common good.

Can we, as indivudiuals that make up a whole, actually hope that our respective governments, acting as indivuduals which make up a whole, expect things to be any better if we don't treat one another in a respectful, way?

Respect yourself. Learn to extend that respect to your neighbor. Help your neighbor to extend that respect to his neighbor and ask his help in extending respect to a stranger. Hope that it can go farther than that.

anthropomorphize ....


anthropomorphization ....

uhm ... Holy Christ.