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Stammer 11-19-2005 08:19 AM

Vatican Official Refutes Intelligent Design
 
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051118/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_evolution:706b1]Link to Article[/url:706b1]

[quote:706b1]The Vatican's chief astronomer said Friday that "intelligent design" isn't science and doesn't belong in science classrooms[/quote:706b1]

Well thank you Captain Obvious.

1080jibber 11-19-2005 08:27 AM

teaching intelligent design biggrin: so funny yet so retarded at the same time

c312 11-19-2005 11:15 AM

How is he a reverend if he doesn't beleive intelligent design in true?

Stammer 11-19-2005 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by c312
How is he a reverend if he doesn't beleive intelligent design in true?

You can believe in God and Jesus without accepting Intelligent Design.

c312 11-19-2005 06:42 PM

that's not christianity though. How can you be a reverend and not believe a core principle of the religion you are practicing

ninty 11-19-2005 06:56 PM

It's always a good idea to read the article you're discussing.

[quote:1c4f5]"Intelligent design isn't science even though it pretends to be," the ANSA news agency quoted Coyne as saying on the sidelines of a conference in Florence. "If you want to teach it in schools, intelligent design should be taught when religion or cultural history is taught, not science."[/quote:1c4f5]

[quote:1c4f5]"If they respect the results of modern science, and indeed the best of modern biblical research, religious believers must move away from the notion of a dictator God or a designer God, a Newtonian God who made the universe as a watch that ticks along regularly."

Rather, he argued, God should be seen more as an encouraging parent.

"God in his infinite freedom continuously creates a world that reflects that freedom at all levels of the evolutionary process to greater and greater complexity," he wrote. "He is not continually intervening, but rather allows, participates, loves."[/quote:1c4f5]

c312 11-19-2005 09:52 PM

yeah, but it doesn't make sense. He's compromising on a core issue of the bible to avoid the controversy. I'm saying it doesn't make sense for a leader of a religion to beleive contrary to what the Bible explicitly says.

Tripper 11-20-2005 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by c312
yeah, but it doesn't make sense. He's compromising on a core issue of the bible to avoid the controversy. I'm saying it doesn't make sense for a leader of a religion to beleive contrary to what the Bible explicitly says.

I don't get what he's done wrong. Makes sense to me. He's right, they shouldn't teach it in a science class. There is no science in it - It would be stupid - It's all about faith.

tomxtr 11-20-2005 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by c312
yeah, but it doesn't make sense. He's compromising on a core issue of the bible to avoid the controversy. I'm saying it doesn't make sense for a leader of a religion to beleive contrary to what the Bible explicitly says.

I don't get what he's done wrong. Makes sense to me. He's right, they shouldn't teach it in a science class. There is no science in it - It would be stupid - It's all about faith.

imwithstupid: And furthermore, who said he is a leader of the religion. Just because he works for the Vatican? I suppose the head accountant would be considered a leader also?

c312 11-20-2005 12:03 PM

it says he's a reverend doesn't it?

How can it make sense? He is a reverend, yet he refuses to believe in one of the main parts of the whole religion.

Johnj 11-20-2005 12:43 PM

GOD works in mysterious ways.


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So does this guy.

Chappy 11-20-2005 02:58 PM

intelligent design is just a "theory" as evolution is a "theory" as the big bang theory is well....a "theory"

if youre going to teach one, why not them all? science hasn't disproven God or "intelligent design" for that matter, but it keeps trying.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

ninty 11-20-2005 04:09 PM

Evolution is NOT a theory.

c312 11-20-2005 05:05 PM

I'm pretty sure Macro still is

Trunks 11-20-2005 05:49 PM

im gonna send this to all my dumbass religious friends. dance:
On a more serious note, true big bang, evolution, and intelligent design can all be considered theories, but the difference is,
1) Big bang and evolution are theories based on science with a lot of factual evidence to support them.
2) Intelligent design is a religious theory, which ahs absolutely nothing to do with the sciences.


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