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Jin-Roh 04-19-2006 08:23 PM

Ethanol
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060419/tc_ ... ethanol_dc

What are the chances of Ehtanol replacing the current standard?

Also, I heard Ethanol is like a dollar more than premium. eek:

Machette 04-19-2006 08:29 PM

Highly unlikely..

ninty 04-19-2006 08:39 PM

Oil remain the standard for quite a while beacuse there is a profit to be made from it. Why would oil companies want to switch when their making so much money?

High school kids made a car that got 50mpg and ran on soy. Shouldn't car manufacturers with their R&D guys be able to figure something like that out? Of course, but the technology is suppressed and will continue to be supressed for as long as possible.

Machette 04-19-2006 08:46 PM

Thank you ninty, I believe you have a far more reaching voice then my own.

Also when consumers want a change then ultimately car companies will meet the demand. But as long as people buy H3 (Hummer) Why should they change?

ninty 04-19-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
Thank you ninty, I believe you have a far more reaching voice then my own.

Why?

You're right though when it comes to consumers.

I also find that it becomes less of a big deal when were gradually introduced to it.

For example, I remember up until last year I had never seen it over $1/L for gas here. I remember filling up for 54 cents/L probably 4 years ago. Last year the price jumped over $1. I was shocked and everyone else was too. It wen back down to around 80's or so and this week jumped up past $1 again.

However, this time I don't see as much of a panic around. People will begin to accept it. Pretty soon gas will always be over $1 here. I have no doubts about that. People will kind of forget when it was less than $1 and higher prices will become normal. People will work it into their budgets and filling up your civic for $40 will replace filling it up for $20.

Until everyone stops driving in protest, the price will climb. Or at least thats the way I see it.

Jin-Roh 04-19-2006 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninty
Until everyone stops driving in protest, the price will climb. Or at least thats the way I see it.

Some "smart" economy guy said that that will never work. Instead people have to just stop buying from the bigger companies so prices will drop. oOo: oOo:

Jin-Roh 04-20-2006 03:12 PM

On the same topic:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060420/bs ... 0420060954

These Ministers need to actually DO SOMETHING to make prices lower, rather than just TALK about them. eek:

Colonel 04-21-2006 09:34 AM

Gas prices will have to stay very high for ethanol to replace it. (btw - I work for a company that produces ethanol - and I would like to thank the president of Iran for saying oil should be $100 per barrel - at that price we could afford to replace gas entirely).

The problem with ethanol is that you get about 30% less miles per gallon. This would be OK if it cost 30% less, but it doesn't. On the bright side, it's renewable, it burns cleaner, and gives a little more horsepower.

Sgt>Stackem 04-21-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel
Gas prices will have to stay very high for ethanol to replace it. (btw - I work for a company that produces ethanol - and I would like to thank the president of Iran for saying oil should be $100 per barrel - at that price we could afford to replace gas entirely).

The problem with ethanol is that you get about 30% less miles per gallon. This would be OK if it cost 30% less, but it doesn't. On the bright side, it's renewable, it burns cleaner, and gives a little more horsepower.


plus it puts our farmers back to work. We need to support Americas farmers

Machette 04-21-2006 10:05 AM

Yeah before they become extinct, wait isn't something like 1-5% of your population farmers? oOo:


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