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gtboys34 06-15-2007 04:36 AM

This is just wrong....
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... home-local annoy:

Listen to the 2 911 calls to the right of the page and then read the story. This has to be one of the worst stories i've ever heard...

Tripper 06-15-2007 06:00 AM

That's very messed up.

What kind of fucking hospital...Man, arent you guys supposed to be a first-world nation?

anti 06-15-2007 06:04 AM

i learned something weird at work, here in canada, 4 times as many people die from medical error than car crashes.

TGB! 06-15-2007 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by anti
i learned something weird at work, here in canada, 4 times as many people die from medical error than car crashes.

No kidding. It has fuck all to do with first or third world country status - and everything to do with human error.

I'm sure shit like this happens EVERYWHERE - it may not be in a hospital, and it may not result in someones death - but human beings fuck up. Period. It's hardly a problem confined to "The Americas".

Merlin122 06-15-2007 10:18 AM

I know it obviously can happen everywhere, but the article did mention hospital staff literally standing back and watching while that woman died. This wasn't just a case of simple human error.

Blase 06-15-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin122
I know it obviously can happen everywhere, but the article did mention hospital staff literally standing back and watching while that woman died. This wasn't just a case of simple human error.

The janitor got to her before the doctors did. I don't even know how that would happen? Were doctors just walking around deciding they didn't want to treat her, casually chatting about their day as she lay on the ground dying?

TonyMontana 06-15-2007 12:22 PM

That is fucked. I would have gone on a murderous rampage until that person was looked after. What happened in that hospital is unexcusable and every doctor, nurse, or whatever that ignored a dieing woman should have their medical license revoked for that shit.

Tripper 06-15-2007 04:33 PM

[quote="TGB!":142c0]
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Originally Posted by anti
i learned something weird at work, here in canada, 4 times as many people die from medical error than car crashes.

No kidding. It has fuck all to do with first or third world country status - and everything to do with human error.

I'm sure shit like this happens EVERYWHERE - it may not be in a hospital, and it may not result in someones death - but human beings fuck up. Period. It's hardly a problem confined to "The Americas".
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Pretty fucked up error when you're refusing to help a dieing patient. I can understand clerical errors and medication/dosage mistakes, surgeical/anesthetic errors - but refusing to help someone thats bleeding to death on the floor is plain fucked-up....Of course its not confined to the americas - But I wouldnt expect something like that to happen in the richest country in the world.

Milla 06-15-2007 04:38 PM

The dispatchers should be....dispatched [img]http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/harblimgs/7chan/118142973643.gif[/img]

Eight Ace 06-15-2007 04:50 PM

^^ROFLMCO biggrin:

TGB! 06-15-2007 04:55 PM

[quote:a12be]But I wouldnt expect something like that to happen in the richest country in the world.[/quote:a12be]

By that logic, why do we have murder? Why do we have abortion? Why do we have crime? Etc. etc. Once you build up first world countries as some infallable machine, it makes it that much more easier to be "stunned" when situations like this occur. Personally - I'm going to go out on a limb and say incidents like this ARENT indicative of the norm.

As for the 911-Dispatchers, the first one probably had the right of it. What could they do? Send a ambulance TO a hospital? At that point it IS out of their hands, and in the hands of the hospital to do something. The second fella, while still right to a point, was just a dick.

Madmartagen 06-15-2007 05:00 PM

that hospital's been going through alot of internal issues. it just went through a big debate on whether to close its doors or not, but their was so much public outrage in closing it that they had to keep it open and bring in new management.

Tripper 06-15-2007 05:12 PM

[quote="TGB!":69741][quote:69741]But I wouldnt expect something like that to happen in the richest country in the world.[/quote:69741]

By that logic, why do we have murder? Why do we have abortion? Why do we have crime? Etc. etc. Once you build up first world countries as some infallable machine, it makes it that much more easier to be "stunned" when situations like this occur. Personally - I'm going to go out on a limb and say incidents like this ARENT indicative of the norm.
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I suppose - but I'm not suprised to hear about murder or abortion or crime. These things happen everywhere and are part of society. An entire hospital's staff refusing to care for dieing patients with no reason provided is pretty suprising....Im not saying its the norm, but its obviously not a freak accident either - Especially considering the history of this particular hospital.

I would expect a powerful/rich nation such as the U.S to have a well-oiled machine when it comes to healthcare administration. How could there be a hospital with so much of its staff being so incompetent? That doesnt just happen.

TGB! 06-15-2007 05:37 PM

Not incompotent, over-taxed. There simply aren't enough nurses (who are the people who would address something like this) relative to the number of folks who need care.

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, its a COUNTY hospital. If they had private care, she no doubt would be alive.

Tripper 06-15-2007 07:10 PM

[quote="TGB!":d2fa4]Not incompotent, over-taxed. There simply aren't enough nurses (who are the people who would address something like this) relative to the number of folks who need care.

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, its a COUNTY hospital. If they had private care, she no doubt would be alive.
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I got the idea from the article that doctors and nurses were standing by not doing anything or were helping less critically sick/injured people...Not that they were too busy to help...


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