StG 44 complainers...
 

...it could be worse: Evidently, the Wehrmacht liked to put scopes (standard and infrared) on the StG 44...

[url:a64cd]http://www.geocities.com/pizzatest/panzerfaust7.htm#stgw44[/url:a64cd]

fire2:

Can you imagine the whining?

lol, and if anyone did that in mohaa imagine the names they would ge called, i won't say any of them on here it might just get me a ban from the forums.

i would view the site but its not up, but yes i would hate the scopes on them. But you gotta admit, moh did TWEAK the Stg just a lil to far out. I mean its not that accurate and powerful like it is. I mean you shot to the head across an entire map kills you, and I can barely even do that with my sniper rifle sometimes lol. I know its a powerful gun, but i also know its not so accurate and powerful with 1 shot u can kill someone way the heck at the other end of a map lol.

Re: StG 44 complainers...
 

[quote="General Tso":044ee]...it could be worse: Evidently, the Wehrmacht liked to put scopes (standard and infrared) on the StG 44...

[url:044ee]http://www.geocities.com/pizzatest/panzerfaust7.htm#stgw44[/url:044ee]

fire2:

Can you imagine the whining?[/quote:044ee]

that infra-red scope sound like BS

If the Germans developed this then both teh US and the USSR would have copied it earlier, just as they borrowed from the V-2 and the swept wing of the Me-262.
The first US night scope was developed by Vietnam, so I guess either the Germans lied or they did a good job destroying all traces of this scope so that neither the Americans nor the Russians copied them by the Korean War.

Vampir
 

"The Sturmgewehr 44 could also be fitted with ZF 1229 Vampir, an infra-red night sighting device. The scope for the Vampir mounted onto the StGw 44 weighed 2.3kg, the support devices were carried in a rucksack and weighed 13kg. 310 of these night-fighting scopes were produced at the company Leitz."

Interesting, but not enough of them were produced to make a difference.

It would be hellacious on Snowy Park with one of those scopes... evil:

Re: Vampir
 

[quote="General Tso":f5958]"The Sturmgewehr 44 could also be fitted with ZF 1229 Vampir, an infra-red night sighting device. The scope for the Vampir mounted onto the StGw 44 weighed 2.3kg, the support devices were carried in a rucksack and weighed 13kg. 310 of these night-fighting scopes were produced at the company Leitz."

Interesting, but not enough of them were produced to make a difference.

It would be hellacious on Snowy Park with one of those scopes... evil:[/quote:f5958]

if there was one it was probably crap like the early Us scopes in 'Nam.
(ie only good to about 100 yards)

I get quite frustrated being wasted by the STG. In close quarters it rocks over the BAR and seems to have a slight edge over the Thompson. For long range give me the BAR anyday.

I can't complain about it however because when I play german (rarely) it's my first choice in weapon.

Sniper is a cool weapon

STG are for n00bs

Re: StG 44 complainers...
 

[quote="Sgt Stryker":ee2fe]
The first US night scope was developed by Vietnam, so I guess either the Germans lied or they did a good job destroying all traces of this scope so that neither the Americans nor the Russians copied them by the Korean War.[/quote:ee2fe]

To be more accurate.. The US did develop and field an infra-red "night scope" during WW2. Designated the "T3" and the later "M3" infra-red sighting devices. The M3 model was the design that would find use in Korea (again in limited numbers).
[url:ee2fe]http://www.ugca.org/ugca0101/ugca0101main.htm[/url:ee2fe] you'll find a photo of each mounted to M1 Carbines about half way down the page. The caption list the range at "about 135 yards". I think they we're most commonly used by paratrooper commando units, tho there use was very limited.

It's german counterpart.. ZG 1229 "Vampir Nachtjaeger" was a "portable" (and I use that term loosely) version of the infra-red devices that were deployed on a limited number of "Night Panther" tanks and "Uhu" observation vehicles. These also found only limited use.
[url:ee2fe]http://www.achtungpanzer.com/ir.htm[/url:ee2fe]

Now these scopes were not the same "night vision" as is in use today, rather they consisted of an infra-red illumination beam that would light the target with infra-red light. The shooter then could see the lighted target through the coupled infra-red spectrum scope. "Starlight" night vision, the method of collecting all available light and amplifying it to a useful amount (the technology used in modern night vision) was not really in use until Nam... but there were infra-red night vision devices in limited use in WW2 and Korea.

Sniper rifles are for people with:

1) bad stafing skills
2) bad eyesight (hence zoom)
3) bad aim (I've seen zoom used from 15 feet away in the OPEN.... gimme a break)
4) bad breath (they are afaid to get close to you)

:P

I can't BELIEVE this topic has come up again!!! mad:

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Re: StG 44 complainers...
 

[quote="¤[4thPHiL]¤ Machalnik":f638e][quote="Sgt Stryker":f638e]
The first US night scope was developed by Vietnam, so I guess either the Germans lied or they did a good job destroying all traces of this scope so that neither the Americans nor the Russians copied them by the Korean War.[/quote:f638e]

To be more accurate.. The US did develop and field an infra-red "night scope" during WW2. Designated the "T3" and the later "M3" infra-red sighting devices. The M3 model was the design that would find use in Korea (again in limited numbers).
[url:f638e]http://www.ugca.org/ugca0101/ugca0101main.htm[/url:f638e] you'll find a photo of each mounted to M1 Carbines about half way down the page. The caption list the range at "about 135 yards". I think they we're most commonly used by paratrooper commando units, tho there use was very limited.

It's german counterpart.. ZG 1229 "Vampir Nachtjaeger" was a "portable" (and I use that term loosely) version of the infra-red devices that were deployed on a limited number of "Night Panther" tanks and "Uhu" observation vehicles. These also found only limited use.
[url:f638e]http://www.achtungpanzer.com/ir.htm[/url:f638e]

Now these scopes were not the same "night vision" as is in use today, rather they consisted of an infra-red illumination beam that would light the target with infra-red light. The shooter then could see the lighted target through the coupled infra-red spectrum scope. "Starlight" night vision, the method of collecting all available light and amplifying it to a useful amount (the technology used in modern night vision) was not really in use until Nam... but there were infra-red night vision devices in limited use in WW2 and Korea.[/quote:f638e]

I wouldn't want to be stuck with one of those scopes, the lead-acid battery must have weighed a ton, like on the early "portable" radios.