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				12-11-2002, 01:55 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="Sgt Stryker":4a537] 
1. not from what I read.[/quote:4a537] 
[quote:4a537]There are no records or photographs to prove that the Tiger II's frontal armor was ever penetrated in combat.[/quote:4a537] 
[quote:4a537]"On the road from Bollersdorf to Strausberg stood a further 11 Stalin tanks, and away on the egde of the village itself were around 120-150 enemy tanks in the process of being refuelled and re-armed. I opened fire and destroyed first and last of the 11 Stalin tanks on the road....My own personal score of enemy tanks destroyed in this action was 39." 
 
SS-Hauptscharführer Karl Körner, 
schwere SS Panzer Abteilung (103) 503 / III SS Panzer Corps, 
East Germany, April of 1945. [/quote:4a537][quote:4a537]2. you're comparing heavy tanks with medium tanks dumbass[/quote:4a537] 
Yeah, and you compared a T-34 to a Pz Kmf III, which is a much smaller and lighter tank you dumb sack of inbred faggotry 
[quote:4a537]3. the T-34/85 was superior in firepower and equal in armor[/quote:4a537] 
Actually the 75mm on the Panther had more penetration power than the Tiger's 88mm. 
Panther's armour: 
Front Turret: 110/11 
Front Upper Hull: 80/55 
Front Lower Hull: 60/55 
Side Turret: 45/25 
Side Upper Hull: 50/30 
Side Lower Hull: 40/0 
Rear Turret: 45/25 
Rear Lower Hull: 40/30 
Turret Top / Bottom: 16/84 / 16/90 
Upper Hull Top / Bottom: 40/90 / 16/90 
Lower Hull Top / Bottom: 30/90 / 16/90 
Gun Mantlet: 100/round  
Also the Panther could take out targets from 2,000 
[quote:4a537]4. sure, is this the same 40mm max armor MkIV I know about?[/quote:4a537] 
No, the the 50mm max armour MkIV! 
[quote:4a537]5. play IL-2, it was created using REAL DATA FROM RUSSIAN AND GERMAN FLIGHT TESTS, the Yak is far superior and the FW flies like a brick.[/quote:4a537] 
Yeah dumbass that's what happens when you don't figure out that it is best to use a Zoom n' Boom tactic instead of dogfighting when using a FW 190 like a dripwad.  Also I should have mentioned the "D" variant was one of the best prop airplanes of the war.  
[quote:4a537]6. we may never know what happened aboard her [/quote:4a537] 
We already know, well, mayber you don't. 
[quote:4a537]try to refute these nazi boy.[/quote:4a537] 
I did RFOLMAO  evil: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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