Alliedassault - View Single Post - Canadian gun owners, your thoughts please

ninty · 12-20-2002, 02:22 PM

So are you asking about how much Jean Chrétien is an idiot, or what we think about a gun registry?

I guess I’ll tell you both. The first one is simple. Jean Chrétien is an idiot. Especially lately. He signed the Kyoto Accord without basically doing what the people of this country wanted. I guarantee you ¾ of this country had doubts about the accord. He gave no time for Canadians to debate and went ahead and signed it. They have no idea how much this is going to cost our economy or how many jobs it will cost. That s just one example.

Want another? OK, flash back to 1993. When he first came to power the Prime Minister before him had signed a contract for new SeaKing helicopters for our Frigates. The SeaKings were built in the 60’s and were already past their life expectance. The first thing Jean Chrétien did when he got into office was cancel the deal and pay a $500,000 fine. How stupid is that. Now, they’re looking to sign a new contract for the helicopters because they know they won’t last much longer. People keep dying flying the damn things. So essentially they wasted half a million dollars in 1993 to push the date back 10 years.

Another example or are you getting tired of them? I could go on for hours. How about the disbandment of the famous CAR (Canadian Airborne Regiment)? After Somalia and the killing of the two kids at the Canadian camp, the government tried to cover it up. When it essentially got out to the public the government disbanded the whole unit. Good way to solve problems. This government has no freaking clue as to what it’s doing it’s not even funny. But it will never change unless you can convince 10 million Ontarians to vote Canadian Alliance, but we all know that is not going to happen. Think Paul Martin will be any better? Think again.

Now onto the gun control topic. Another stupid move by the government. The overall goal is to keep the guns off the street and out of the hands of criminals. That is what all governments want to do and I have no problem with that. However, the government here went totally the wrong way with it. A gun registry will not do anything to keep guns off the street or guns out of the hands of criminals. And the fact that the project ballooned to 1 or 2 billion dollars is out outrageous. The government initially said it would only cost a few hundred million. But even if it did, it wouldn’t do anything. You would have people that like to hunt (and believe me, it is harder and more expensive than ever to hunt here. So much red tape) having to pay out of their ass for this stupid thing. Then you have people like me and my father. I believe there are about 7 guns in my house right now. 4 rifles 2 shotguns and one revolver from the 1800’s which was my dad’s dads. Do you think any of those are registered? (I hope the government isn’t reading this). Anyway, my dad gave up. He used to go hunting a lot. We have deer heads and peasants in the house from way back when you could actually go hunting without too much cost or trouble. All this registry does is keep the good people who are law abiding citizens in the governments view, but it does nothing to capture criminals. It may stop registered guns going to criminals, but it won’t stop unregistered ones from going to them. And like the article said, I highly doubt criminals are going to register their weapons. I have a friend who still hunts without having his guns registered. He has a licence and all that and when he goes he slips the ranger some money if he is stopped. He’s never had a problem and he’s an avid hunter.

Anyway this system is a total waste of taxpayer money. I guarantee you none of my guns will be registered. They’ll stay in the basement. If you want to talk about more wasted money try to find an article on some document a government paid for, it cost millions of dollars, and no one knows where the damn thing is. How freaking unorganized can you be? They pay for something, get it, lose it, and essentially waste millions of taxpayer dollars. It’s outrageous. And this happens everyday.

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ninty is Offline Major General Posts: 12,683 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Calgary	12-20-2002, 02:22 PM So are you asking about how much Jean Chrétien is an idiot, or what we think about a gun registry? I guess I’ll tell you both. The first one is simple. Jean Chrétien is an idiot. Especially lately. He signed the Kyoto Accord without basically doing what the people of this country wanted. I guarantee you ¾ of this country had doubts about the accord. He gave no time for Canadians to debate and went ahead and signed it. They have no idea how much this is going to cost our economy or how many jobs it will cost. That s just one example. Want another? OK, flash back to 1993. When he first came to power the Prime Minister before him had signed a contract for new SeaKing helicopters for our Frigates. The SeaKings were built in the 60’s and were already past their life expectance. The first thing Jean Chrétien did when he got into office was cancel the deal and pay a $500,000 fine. How stupid is that. Now, they’re looking to sign a new contract for the helicopters because they know they won’t last much longer. People keep dying flying the damn things. So essentially they wasted half a million dollars in 1993 to push the date back 10 years. Another example or are you getting tired of them? I could go on for hours. How about the disbandment of the famous CAR (Canadian Airborne Regiment)? After Somalia and the killing of the two kids at the Canadian camp, the government tried to cover it up. When it essentially got out to the public the government disbanded the whole unit. Good way to solve problems. This government has no freaking clue as to what it’s doing it’s not even funny. But it will never change unless you can convince 10 million Ontarians to vote Canadian Alliance, but we all know that is not going to happen. Think Paul Martin will be any better? Think again. Now onto the gun control topic. Another stupid move by the government. The overall goal is to keep the guns off the street and out of the hands of criminals. That is what all governments want to do and I have no problem with that. However, the government here went totally the wrong way with it. A gun registry will not do anything to keep guns off the street or guns out of the hands of criminals. And the fact that the project ballooned to 1 or 2 billion dollars is out outrageous. The government initially said it would only cost a few hundred million. But even if it did, it wouldn’t do anything. You would have people that like to hunt (and believe me, it is harder and more expensive than ever to hunt here. So much red tape) having to pay out of their ass for this stupid thing. Then you have people like me and my father. I believe there are about 7 guns in my house right now. 4 rifles 2 shotguns and one revolver from the 1800’s which was my dad’s dads. Do you think any of those are registered? (I hope the government isn’t reading this). Anyway, my dad gave up. He used to go hunting a lot. We have deer heads and peasants in the house from way back when you could actually go hunting without too much cost or trouble. All this registry does is keep the good people who are law abiding citizens in the governments view, but it does nothing to capture criminals. It may stop registered guns going to criminals, but it won’t stop unregistered ones from going to them. And like the article said, I highly doubt criminals are going to register their weapons. I have a friend who still hunts without having his guns registered. He has a licence and all that and when he goes he slips the ranger some money if he is stopped. He’s never had a problem and he’s an avid hunter. Anyway this system is a total waste of taxpayer money. I guarantee you none of my guns will be registered. They’ll stay in the basement. If you want to talk about more wasted money try to find an article on some document a government paid for, it cost millions of dollars, and no one knows where the damn thing is. How freaking unorganized can you be? They pay for something, get it, lose it, and essentially waste millions of taxpayer dollars. It’s outrageous. And this happens everyday.