[quote="hamsters united":4eebb][quote="redhawk_six":4eebb][quote=BallisticWookie]
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Originally Posted by "hamsters united":4eebb
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Originally Posted by zxcvnm
[quote:4eebb]The men of the Waffen SS were, with a few exceptions, brave fighters not murderers. They were as noted earlier an independent organisation within the SS and not connected with the despicable einsatzgruppen or Totenkopfverbande, the death camp guards. There were some small units which were technically listed under the waffen SS but were NOT part of the SS panzer Korps, whose actions in Poland and partisan fighting away from the front lines were extreme in doing the dirty job of subduing guerilla fighters
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that's utter BS, the Waffen SS were some of the worst murderers there. That site is retarded[/quote:4eebb]
Errrr, I was under the impression that was pretty spot on.[/quote:4eebb]
Yes, I've studied WWII history for about 3 years now, and what zxcvnm posted is spot on, what hamster said reflects a bias based on ignorance of the true facts. The SS were murderers, the Waffen SS were nothing more than elite combat soldiers, no diffrent from the Rangers, Green Berets, or Navy SEALs.[/quote:4eebb]
i'm just trying to point out that such a site may not be appreciated by alot of people (esp. here in europe - go tell my grandfather that the Waffen-SS need a website). You can't seriously say they were ' no different from the Rangers, Green Berets, or Navy SEALs', that's BS. Why? because they carried out the orders of the biggest f*ckhead ever. Willingly.[/quote:4eebb]
They did not nessicerly carry out orders willingly, they faced death if they didn't do as they were told.
And I know some people might not apperciate such a site, I'm half Jewish, my grandmother escaped beoming a victyim of the holocaust by a matter of months.