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Default 03-15-2003, 07:26 PM

[quote=Blitz]
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Originally Posted by "Jedi Marksman":1da26
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Originally Posted by Blitz
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Originally Posted by BUTCH
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yeah, without America...we won't be able to be entertained by wars.
without america you would be speaking russian now too...give that some thought.
And without the russia everyone would be speakin german. give THAT some thought
I find that funny. You honestly believe that without the Western Front, Russia could have defeated Germany by itself? Get real! Stalin begged for a second front because he knew that if Hitler was not made to turn his divisions West to counter the allies, Russia could have been annhilated. Let's face it, it was hitler's blunderous interference and the Russian winter that was more of a factor in the Eastern Front than the prowess of the Russian Army. with all due respect to the brave men and women who fought against the Nazi juggernaut in the Soviet Union. THAT is what you should give some thought to.
And you seriously think that the USA and the UK could have defeated Germany by it's self without the USSR? You know that only 33% of Germany's casualties came against western powers? And saying basically that the winter was the reason the russians won is a joke and western propaganda meant to belittle the forces of the Communists. I don't think the Russian winter would have stopped the germans in Kursk in summer 43. The russians possible had the potent airforce in the war, and the tank troops were also excellant as the war dragged on.[/quote:1da26]

I'm not trying to belittle anyone, read my post again!

propaganda meant to belittle the forces of the Communists.

Whatever.

And you seriously think that the USA and the UK could have defeated Germany by it's self without the USSR?

The Allies had air superiority, had neutralized the Kriegsmarine, were pushing the German Wehrmacht back on all fronts(minus some setbacks), and would have reached Berlin before the Russians, however Eisenhower decided to let the Russians have Berlin(which they certainly deserved as a "pound of flesh").

Again, I'm not trying to belittle the Russian forces, I'm stating facts. It's really a moot point, the war is over.
  
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