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Ydiss · 06-10-2003, 08:16 AM

[quote="CaP bUsTa":d013a] Our lifes are a minute fraction of time in an unimaginably small part of the universe, but it's my fraction of time. Im going to do something with it.[/quote:d013a]

Amen.

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As for believing science or religion... I'm much more inclined to believe science.

If it were not for science then we'd still be living in caves rubbing sticks together.

Science has provided more good and beneficial things than religion ever has.

Certainly, science has also produced many bad things and, because of it, we are slowly killing our planet.

But if you look at how science has enabled humans and animals to live longer, curing diseases, and so on, then compare it to what religion has brought us over 2000+ years...

Religion breeds dispute, hatred, killing, murder just as much as it provides inner peace.

Sure, it's nice to think a lost familly member is going to a nice place, but I'd much rather have them still alive because of an amazing scientific break-though and I'd much rather a world without all the religious conflict.

God supposedly gives us life then takes it away at will. We are supposed to accept that, but we aren't we are trying to stop it through science. God must be pretty upset at that, then I suppose?

God has supposedly made us flawed because of the mistakes made by one couple at the creation of man. Only when we all act in his name will be again become immortal and live in paradise. Gee thanks.

So, let me get this straight... God gave us mortality and disease, death and pain. Science tries its best to take that away.

Which do I prefer? Hmm, tough one that. I think I'm more inclined to believe that we die due to the way genetical reproduction is finite, we feel pain because it is an in-built warning system and there is disease because we are not the only organisms on the planet and not all are benevolent.

The worst part of religion is the contradiction.

Not in the facts, as there are no facts in religion.

The contradiction comes from the behaviours of the religious people. Surely a pure-of-heart group of people who are at peace would not feel the need to convert others to a cause that they do not believe in.

Either by wheedling, bible-pushing, or in extreme circumstances, by force (sometimes with deadly force).

And, to a degree, Innoxx is right. Following religion is like following a shepherd.

Do we all not have our own will, our own wishes and our own lives?

Believe in what you want to, not what you are told to.

Religion was created when humans were very unevolved and very rustic. It was created when we were ignorant of many forces and realities.

Since we have learnt more and more about how we are, what we are made of and how we work, religious people still believe that we and every single atom on this planet (and I suppose the whole universe) were created by one immortal man that no one has ever seen. A man with a beard and who wears robes and lives on another plane.

Oh come on...

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Ydiss is Offline Senior Member Posts: 2,377 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nottingham, England	06-10-2003, 08:16 AM [quote="CaP bUsTa":d013a] Our lifes are a minute fraction of time in an unimaginably small part of the universe, but it's my fraction of time. Im going to do something with it.[/quote:d013a] Amen. biggrin: As for believing science or religion... I'm much more inclined to believe science. If it were not for science then we'd still be living in caves rubbing sticks together. Science has provided more good and beneficial things than religion ever has. Certainly, science has also produced many bad things and, because of it, we are slowly killing our planet. But if you look at how science has enabled humans and animals to live longer, curing diseases, and so on, then compare it to what religion has brought us over 2000+ years... Religion breeds dispute, hatred, killing, murder just as much as it provides inner peace. Sure, it's nice to think a lost familly member is going to a nice place, but I'd much rather have them still alive because of an amazing scientific break-though and I'd much rather a world without all the religious conflict. God supposedly gives us life then takes it away at will. We are supposed to accept that, but we aren't we are trying to stop it through science. God must be pretty upset at that, then I suppose? God has supposedly made us flawed because of the mistakes made by one couple at the creation of man. Only when we all act in his name will be again become immortal and live in paradise. Gee thanks. So, let me get this straight... God gave us mortality and disease, death and pain. Science tries its best to take that away. Which do I prefer? Hmm, tough one that. I think I'm more inclined to believe that we die due to the way genetical reproduction is finite, we feel pain because it is an in-built warning system and there is disease because we are not the only organisms on the planet and not all are benevolent. The worst part of religion is the contradiction. Not in the facts, as there are no facts in religion. The contradiction comes from the behaviours of the religious people. Surely a pure-of-heart group of people who are at peace would not feel the need to convert others to a cause that they do not believe in. Either by wheedling, bible-pushing, or in extreme circumstances, by force (sometimes with deadly force). And, to a degree, Innoxx is right. Following religion is like following a shepherd. Do we all not have our own will, our own wishes and our own lives? Believe in what you want to, not what you are told to. Religion was created when humans were very unevolved and very rustic. It was created when we were ignorant of many forces and realities. Since we have learnt more and more about how we are, what we are made of and how we work, religious people still believe that we and every single atom on this planet (and I suppose the whole universe) were created by one immortal man that no one has ever seen. A man with a beard and who wears robes and lives on another plane. Oh come on...