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First Man Down · 01-24-2002, 03:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> In no publicly (especially free) served online game will you ever, ever have spontanious teamwork.

You will hardly ever come across it. It happens if you begin to get to know someone, or you have a laugh with someone and agree to team up some.

But it happens the whole team over without some kind of mass agreement.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you, Ydiss for finally seeing the issues I pointed out.

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First Man Down. You're right it makes no difference to the gameplay on public servers. It also does make killing easier. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, it does make a difference to gameplay - it just makes it easier for poor players to score frags. This would only be the opposite if all the players on the server agreed to adhere to teamwork and act in terms of squad dynamics.

And, as Ydiss correctly pointed out, this is not possible. We've been weened on a steady diet of strafe/circle/run-gun tactics and that's how nearly all players operate. This is how MP games have been designed. Who started it? Who knows? Will it evolve? Who knows?

I would like to see a game where you can become more involved in the situation, where you can communicate with teammates in an effective fashion, and employ team tactics and strategies. The entire point I was making is that you can't yet. The game doesn't exist. With the CPR mod, you've altered the game to the point where the weapon tactics are removed and now all players are given the same opportunity to kill and survive. Tactics to avoid fire are worthless, and thus negating universally accepted MP abilities, which all players make use of.

I know where you're coming from, Siggi, but when you alter one part of the game to suit realism, the other parts you leave alone remain suited for arcade play. You get a conflict. Do you catch my drift?

I hope you all realize where I'm coming from.

[This message has been edited by First Man Down (edited January 24, 2002).]

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First Man Down is Offline Senior Member Posts: 127 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada	01-24-2002, 03:57 AM <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> In no publicly (especially free) served online game will you ever, ever have spontanious teamwork. You will hardly ever come across it. It happens if you begin to get to know someone, or you have a laugh with someone and agree to team up some. But it happens the whole team over without some kind of mass agreement.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thank you, Ydiss for finally seeing the issues I pointed out. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> First Man Down. You're right it makes no difference to the gameplay on public servers. It also does make killing easier. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, it does make a difference to gameplay - it just makes it easier for poor players to score frags. This would only be the opposite if all the players on the server agreed to adhere to teamwork and act in terms of squad dynamics. And, as Ydiss correctly pointed out, this is not possible. We've been weened on a steady diet of strafe/circle/run-gun tactics and that's how nearly all players operate. This is how MP games have been designed. Who started it? Who knows? Will it evolve? Who knows? I would like to see a game where you can become more involved in the situation, where you can communicate with teammates in an effective fashion, and employ team tactics and strategies. The entire point I was making is that you can't yet. The game doesn't exist. With the CPR mod, you've altered the game to the point where the weapon tactics are removed and now all players are given the same opportunity to kill and survive. Tactics to avoid fire are worthless, and thus negating universally accepted MP abilities, which all players make use of. I know where you're coming from, Siggi, but when you alter one part of the game to suit realism, the other parts you leave alone remain suited for arcade play. You get a conflict. Do you catch my drift? I hope you all realize where I'm coming from. [This message has been edited by First Man Down (edited January 24, 2002).]