Alliedassault - View Single Post - Wallhacks, discouraged, should I quit MOH?

Ydiss · 07-17-2003, 01:10 PM

Anti-Hero is right though.

Using a wallhack can give away a lot of potential cheaters, some blatent, but it doesn't mean that they're all cheating.

Since I upgraded my old SB PCI 16 sound card to a SBLive! 5.1 (whilst using headphones) I've found a massive difference in audio location.

You can pin-point where someone is by their sounds very, very easilly and from a longer distance.

Before, with the old card, footsteps at about 100 yards or more away would be very indistinct and I could only vaguely locate the source. Now, I can locate the exact source of the sounds at any distance, and at any angle (except height, headphones don't account for that without EAX support, sadly, but experience makes up for that).

I've played with a skinhack and without and since I upgraded my sound, mouse, CPU, memory, graphics card and monitor I find there's very little advantage to using one for me, now (not that I've ever used one to gain advantage, more to piss of other cheaters).

The only true benefit using a skinhack gives me is in knowing where the silent enemy is and on most publics there are very few of them.

I find it funny when someone blunders around a corner making loads of noise (especially those that spam taunts) and accuse me of hacking when I kill them every time they emerge, mostly within a split second of them appearing.

The only way to be sure someone is using a hack on you is to turn yours on and get them into a one-on-one situation where there's a corner between you and them.

If they are looking right at you before you emerge this does not mean they are cheating, necessarily. Be patient and use walk. Then move as if to emerge into their line-of-sight but pull away just before you come into view.

If they shoot at you then you can be much more sure you have a hacker. Even then I'd suggest trying this two times to see if they fall for it again.

Some people just have great reactions and ears, along with a great system and audio set-up. Some (myself included) just guess, and get it right more often than not - Others have great timing.

You do not know how easy it is until you try it yourself. So, unless you have a fast PC, a big monitor, a great GFX card, a 5.1 or better sound card and so on, you cannot truly know how easy it is for some players who genuinely don't cheat.

Another thing:

I don't really agree with the saying "If someone accuses you of cheating then it's a compliment". Perhaps... But it's also insulting to pull off an amazing shot or sequence and to have them say you only did it because you cheated.

It's so much nicer, and easier, to just say "Great Shot!" and continue playing.

There's only one thing worse than cheating in games and that's the paranoia that accompanies it.

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Ydiss is Offline Senior Member Posts: 2,377 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nottingham, England	07-17-2003, 01:10 PM Anti-Hero is right though. Using a wallhack can give away a lot of potential cheaters, some blatent, but it doesn't mean that they're all cheating. Since I upgraded my old SB PCI 16 sound card to a SBLive! 5.1 (whilst using headphones) I've found a massive difference in audio location. You can pin-point where someone is by their sounds very, very easilly and from a longer distance. Before, with the old card, footsteps at about 100 yards or more away would be very indistinct and I could only vaguely locate the source. Now, I can locate the exact source of the sounds at any distance, and at any angle (except height, headphones don't account for that without EAX support, sadly, but experience makes up for that). I've played with a skinhack and without and since I upgraded my sound, mouse, CPU, memory, graphics card and monitor I find there's very little advantage to using one for me, now (not that I've ever used one to gain advantage, more to piss of other cheaters). The only true benefit using a skinhack gives me is in knowing where the silent enemy is and on most publics there are very few of them. I find it funny when someone blunders around a corner making loads of noise (especially those that spam taunts) and accuse me of hacking when I kill them every time they emerge, mostly within a split second of them appearing. The only way to be sure someone is using a hack on you is to turn yours on and get them into a one-on-one situation where there's a corner between you and them. If they are looking right at you before you emerge this does not mean they are cheating, necessarily. Be patient and use walk. Then move as if to emerge into their line-of-sight but pull away just before you come into view. If they shoot at you then you can be much more sure you have a hacker. Even then I'd suggest trying this two times to see if they fall for it again. Some people just have great reactions and ears, along with a great system and audio set-up. Some (myself included) just guess, and get it right more often than not - Others have great timing. You do not know how easy it is until you try it yourself. So, unless you have a fast PC, a big monitor, a great GFX card, a 5.1 or better sound card and so on, you cannot truly know how easy it is for some players who genuinely don't cheat. Another thing: I don't really agree with the saying "If someone accuses you of cheating then it's a compliment". Perhaps... But it's also insulting to pull off an amazing shot or sequence and to have them say you only did it because you cheated. It's so much nicer, and easier, to just say "Great Shot!" and continue playing. There's only one thing worse than cheating in games and that's the paranoia that accompanies it.