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08-22-2003, 11:06 AM
[quote="ED!":637d0]And yanno what - it's funny, some people cant see beyond this place. What exactly should we HELP people with Rude. I see that come alot from you. What exactly would you recommend we "vets" (constantly in quotes - gg) do to lend a helping hand. Who comes to OTBS in need of assistance? How many tech threads have there been that have been answered and quickly forgotten?
The problem here is that people cant see past the shit they smell in front of them, to realize the entire landscape doesnt appear the same way. If anyone HONESTLY thinks the loud-mouthed behavior of a few individuals can deter an entire forum - not just OT but an ENTIRE message board - then you all are giving us more credit in one area, that you dont want to seem to give in others.
The fact of the matter is, when this boards was "hijacked" (which is obvious to those who give a shit that it wasnt), the song remained the same, things went on as usual. Noone had an oppurtunity to truly do anything, but it's nice to harp and say "oh look how things went to shit".
And why the hell SHOULD anyone here lend a helping hand or even try to set an example - theres no support from the admins or mods to do so. Noone says - hey good job on curbing this, or getting rid of that person. All we see are locked threads because, golly, someone just didnt like the topic. Yea. Ok. Sorry if Twizzlers arent interesting to YOU.
But you know all this is runnig around in circles to the main obvious point - a few guys cannot, and HAVE NOT derailed this place. Thats bullshit. BULL FUCKING SHIT. This place started to become unmanageable when one thing happened - Badscript left. With BS gone, and admins with noone to answer to, things started to get out of control. Members signed up, posted once left; idiots came, got flamed, started more flames, create more imbalance. All of this could have been stopped if only one person still had the back of this site. And he didnt. Most of us here in OT dont even venture out into the other forums, and yet we're STILL supposed to be the reason this SITE is the way it is. I dont buy it. Noone buys it. The only ones buying it are the folks who dont want to look at their OWN style of leadership, and think theyve found easy targets. Sorry charlie that may work on others easily baited into "fuck you bitches", and "eat me cock-purses" - but I kinda like to be more erudite than that.
Joe lied. And if he didn't outright lie, then he acted with impetus at the perceived actions of guys he already had beef with. His heart was not in the game, yet instead of stepping aside and allowing new admin to take his place, he simply goes on a sabbatical - yet remaining admin. Of course he has a job when he comes back - which is more than the Wook or the Spooge got.
Zoner I think had the same happen to him. You're pulled in two directions from two different sites with two different styles to them. Not suprisingly he chose the style he has more "loyalty" (?) to. And that's fine. But again, this rankled the natives and those who slugged it out in the gutters of OT before he became admin. You can call that a petty response if you want, but to just dismiss complaints against mods as "jealousy" or 'hatred' - gimme a break. That shows a weakness in leadership to do so.
Anyway rant mode off - this is long enough as it is, and folks more than likley wont even read through it all. Just realize there is always more than one side to a story.[/quote:637d0]
Prove that I lied, and that I did it for personal reasons. Just because you think that I banned them because I don't like them, dosen't mean I did. Ed, let's get off the subject already, we're not getting anywhere fast.
Still, helping people with MOH problems should be the main concern with this forum, even if it is "JoeN00b" asking why he can't play MOH because he gets a "Cannot start openGL subsystem". My intents up until about two months ago, was to post answers to as many MOH players as I can. Over time, I got irritated by people on this site, and it irked me just not to help anymore. Well, maybe we can try to calm things down here some, and we can bring back a community of gamers, and not a community of complainers.
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