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Bobo · 01-26-2002, 10:24 AM

Unfortunately he is right...
This is quoted from the source of the Final Retail Warez Release:

You might have seen a FLT release of this game before, which turned out
to be just another beta. A few examples of differences for files that do
not have the same date and/or content (from both cds and installdir):

FLT-release:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
01.12.06 22:08:20 R 630,838 cgamex86.dll
01.12.15 06:43:18 R 594,632,704 data2.cab
01.12.15 06:45:20 R 280,563,093 data3.cab
01.12.15 06:40:26 R 167,785 Setup.inx
(DIR) 83,825,947 mainvideo

The FLT-version enters this into the registry:

HKLMSOFTWAREEA GAMESMedal of Honor Allied Assault1.1.12.130

Store Final:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
01.12.06 22:08:20 R 630,838 cgamex86.dll
01.12.21 08:57:46 R 594,632,704 data2.cab
01.12.21 08:59:42 R 280,721,436 data3.cab
01.12.21 08:54:46 R 167,785 Setup.inx
(DIR) 84,063,581 mainvideo

The store final enters this into the registry:

HKLMSOFTWAREEA GAMESMedal of Honor Allied Assault1.1.12.200

That all proves that FLT's release was a definite beta (i.e. a copy for a
magazine (p)review) and not a store final. [BTW, we recommend that a certain
FLT person takes a closer look at the cgamex86.dll on his beta cd.]

Lately we have seen a number of newbies and dumb biased scene nukers asking
why DEViANCE even bother to release finals for games that have been
released as late betas by other groups. We couldn't say it better than our
competition themselves have done, as quoted from an nfo for a game that
FLT put the US-store final out for (Final Fantasy 8):

"So here you have the full FINAL version of this Huge game and Error free
Bins, Killing two birds with One Stone. The purpose of the ISO scene is
to share images of store final CDS, the same product that would be sold
as retail in a software shop. Otherwise we risk problems of update patches
not working correctly."

We would welcome if all groups aimed to uphold quality in the iso-releasing
scene - and that means that groups do not release betas intentionally and
that they do not release versions of games of which they are not sure if
they are really final. Mistakes in judging what is final and what is beta
can of course happen and have happened to us in the past as well.

But we in DEViANCE believe that it is not acceptable when iso-groups like
FLT release betas in almost regular short intervals. We can only hope that
our competition in FLT will finally learn that reviewers' copies on gold
cdrs are almost never the final versions of a game - and definitely not
worthwhile iso releases.

If you prefer betas, do not leech this release.

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Bobo is Offline Junior Member Posts: 17 Join Date: Jan 2002	01-26-2002, 10:24 AM Unfortunately he is right... This is quoted from the source of the Final Retail Warez Release: You might have seen a FLT release of this game before, which turned out to be just another beta. A few examples of differences for files that do not have the same date and/or content (from both cds and installdir): FLT-release: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ 01.12.06 22:08:20 R 630,838 cgamex86.dll 01.12.15 06:43:18 R 594,632,704 data2.cab 01.12.15 06:45:20 R 280,563,093 data3.cab 01.12.15 06:40:26 R 167,785 Setup.inx (DIR) 83,825,947 mainvideo The FLT-version enters this into the registry: HKLMSOFTWAREEA GAMESMedal of Honor Allied Assault1.1.12.130 Store Final: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ 01.12.06 22:08:20 R 630,838 cgamex86.dll 01.12.21 08:57:46 R 594,632,704 data2.cab 01.12.21 08:59:42 R 280,721,436 data3.cab 01.12.21 08:54:46 R 167,785 Setup.inx (DIR) 84,063,581 mainvideo The store final enters this into the registry: HKLMSOFTWAREEA GAMESMedal of Honor Allied Assault1.1.12.200 That all proves that FLT's release was a definite beta (i.e. a copy for a magazine (p)review) and not a store final. [BTW, we recommend that a certain FLT person takes a closer look at the cgamex86.dll on his beta cd.] Lately we have seen a number of newbies and dumb biased scene nukers asking why DEViANCE even bother to release finals for games that have been released as late betas by other groups. We couldn't say it better than our competition themselves have done, as quoted from an nfo for a game that FLT put the US-store final out for (Final Fantasy 8): "So here you have the full FINAL version of this Huge game and Error free Bins, Killing two birds with One Stone. The purpose of the ISO scene is to share images of store final CDS, the same product that would be sold as retail in a software shop. Otherwise we risk problems of update patches not working correctly." We would welcome if all groups aimed to uphold quality in the iso-releasing scene - and that means that groups do not release betas intentionally and that they do not release versions of games of which they are not sure if they are really final. Mistakes in judging what is final and what is beta can of course happen and have happened to us in the past as well. But we in DEViANCE believe that it is not acceptable when iso-groups like FLT release betas in almost regular short intervals. We can only hope that our competition in FLT will finally learn that reviewers' copies on gold cdrs are almost never the final versions of a game - and definitely not worthwhile iso releases. If you prefer betas, do not leech this release.