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Originally Posted by Tripper

*Sighs*

Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years.

I have always felt odd about this ? I thought the Whiteman paid back the blacks in blood (Civil War).[/quote:e4c7a]

On that note i'll jump into this thread

All the Civil War did was free them from slavery, what everyone seems to be forgetting is treatment after the war. The treatment of blacks after they were "free" wasn't any better then when they were slaves, in some cases it was worse (especially in the south.) The war really didn't help anything, blacks were still treated as second class citizens and were now faced with a terrorist group stopping whatever freedoms they earned.

Even if your forefathers had nothing to do with slavery, it doesn't mean that they treated blacks as equal, or even tried to help them become equal, most likely they just helped contribute to keeping them unequal (just because they lived with them, doesn't mean they liked them.)

Noctis, you keep bringing up Egyptians and them keeping Hebrews as slaves and blacks being just as guilty, there are several things that distinguish that slavery and the slavery in America (though its nice that you realize that the Egyptians were black.) For one, the main proof that the Hebrews were slaves there is written in a religious tome, sure you can prove that Hebrews were in Egypt via bones and genetic material, but there is no definitive proof that they were slaves, for all we know they could've second class citizens. Two, When the Greeks invaded Egypt they slowly stopped the spread of the Egyptians genes, thus for the most part wiping them (this also starting the belief that Egyptians were White.)

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

When I say lazy minorities, Im not saying the entire black race, Im saying the inner city blacks who think that way?

And if you say "You should at least respect them"

Respect them when they talk about raping the white wman and fuck the white man I aint gonna listen to that shit.

Thats nice, you're fine with lazy majorities, but minorities(specifically blacks) you have a problem with. I don't know what blacks are saying "rape white women," you're probably just responding to a stereotype started by White Supremacists. However the "fuck the white man" comments are just from passed down hatred from the treatment from whites during the post civil war and slavery. Its not any better then racists, but there's at least a reason for it.

Originally Posted by Tripper

You do realise that it was a VERY small percentage of slaves that were sold by their own people, right?
This is a typical comment made by those who can't handle that their ancestors fucked up.

Just to further elaborate on this, it (for the most part) wasn't there own people, but other tribes that they were at war with that wanted an easy way to get rid of their enemies.

And Tripper, its nice that you're trying to help, but you're going about this the wrong way, flaming people isn't going to help your arguement.


As for affirmative action and other double standards that you guys are bitching about, they will only exist as long as they are necessary, believe it or not, prejudice people still exist as long as they exist(or until a majority of them disappear) those double standards will still be needed. While they are rather extreme, America has matured enough in regards to race for them to disappear. And believe it or not, being a minority isn't as easy as you assume, even with those "double standards".