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Eames · 12-14-2003, 06:53 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":6f764]
you have a good point, if the administration didn't make up shit about Saddam having nuclear bombs ready to bomb us/give to terrorists, we could have approved this whole operation through the UN on the basis of Saddam's human rights violations, but instead Bush screwed the pooch and now we have trouble finding allies to help rebuild and provide peacekeepers.

Even if we secure Iraq, Bush will undoubtedly find a way to fuck up (like saying something stupid that will get the Iraqis pissed off at us and start a revolt)[/quote:6f764]

Like who else would be in iraq with us? Because last time I checked our REAL allies are already there, you know great britian and the common wealth (excluding canada because of the frenchman leader), countries like poland and romania, etc are also there because they know how precious freedom is, they know what its like to be opressed, and they also know the united states is doing whats right. The French, the Germans, and the Russians would never have went to war with iraq simply because of the amount of money the sadam regime owed them!! They knew that once sadam was gone they would never recieve the millions of dollars sadam owed them and lets not forget they would lose their illeagal lucrative oil trade with iraq which was in direct violation of economic sanctions put on iraq. The real reason France, Germany, and Russia didn't want to topple sadam purely and simply was because of economic reasons and you all know it, their bs excuses about un aproval is just a pathetic excuse to try and cover up their illeagal dealings with iraq. The United states goverment has an obligation to its people now to supress all threats now before they can materialize, this is why we pre-emptivly attacked iraq, and its why we will most likley pre-empmtivly attack other countries in the future, we simply cant afford to sit back and wait for another 9-11 style attack to happen again, before we do take action.

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Eames is Offline Command Sergeant Major Posts: 2,025 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL or Charleston, SC	12-14-2003, 06:53 PM [quote="Sgt Stryker":6f764] you have a good point, if the administration didn't make up shit about Saddam having nuclear bombs ready to bomb us/give to terrorists, we could have approved this whole operation through the UN on the basis of Saddam's human rights violations, but instead Bush screwed the pooch and now we have trouble finding allies to help rebuild and provide peacekeepers. Even if we secure Iraq, Bush will undoubtedly find a way to fuck up (like saying something stupid that will get the Iraqis pissed off at us and start a revolt)[/quote:6f764] Like who else would be in iraq with us? Because last time I checked our REAL allies are already there, you know great britian and the common wealth (excluding canada because of the frenchman leader), countries like poland and romania, etc are also there because they know how precious freedom is, they know what its like to be opressed, and they also know the united states is doing whats right. The French, the Germans, and the Russians would never have went to war with iraq simply because of the amount of money the sadam regime owed them!! They knew that once sadam was gone they would never recieve the millions of dollars sadam owed them and lets not forget they would lose their illeagal lucrative oil trade with iraq which was in direct violation of economic sanctions put on iraq. The real reason France, Germany, and Russia didn't want to topple sadam purely and simply was because of economic reasons and you all know it, their bs excuses about un aproval is just a pathetic excuse to try and cover up their illeagal dealings with iraq. The United states goverment has an obligation to its people now to supress all threats now before they can materialize, this is why we pre-emptivly attacked iraq, and its why we will most likley pre-empmtivly attack other countries in the future, we simply cant afford to sit back and wait for another 9-11 style attack to happen again, before we do take action.