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Coleman · 02-27-2004, 06:47 PM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":8164b][quote="Pvt.Pinhead":8164b][quote="Recycled Spooge":8164b]Anyway, that website seems to be made by some biblethumping religious activist group that want's to get Christ and the Bible back into the school system. I'm an atheist, and I honistly don't want to see religious garbage littered throughout my school. It's a seperation of chirch and state, it's as easy as that. It's the law. It prevents religious groups from controlling our country.[/quote:8164b]

Y is it yalll hate God and Jesus so much?! I mean what has happened in your life to cause yall to not belive?!?! Most of you have obviously read the Bible and were brought up as Christians but what has truned you away?! Really?! I mean God has helped me in problems before, like sometimes when I have a bad day I say a simple prayer and often its answered with something else eventually during the day happens and cheers me up. But not just any prayer, you acually have to have faith and seriously know that there is a God and that your prayer isnt being ignored.[/quote:8164b]
I have a problem with religious people in that I have to be politically correct(that's right Noctis) around them. I can't swear, have a beer with them, say a sex joke, show them a naked lady in a picture, or have an opinion on the church because they will go crazy on you. Second of all, I come from Poland, the birthplace of the Pope. I'm sick and tired of churches literally looting the Polish system and its people and I don't want it happening everywhere else. These aren't the reasons why I'm not a Christian though; these are the reasons why I don't want the church involved in state related activities. I'm a not a christian based on the fact that I believe that believing in something like a "sin" is totally absurd. I don't believe in moralty, I'm a nihilist. I believe there is an exception to every sin and there is justification to braking every law there ever was and ever will be in any system; wich brings up my other belief: chaos. I also believe that nobody is technically responsible for their own actions, but instead they are doomed to be controlled by their environnment and their hereditary traits; thus, I believe no punishment is justified for anything since if a person was breaking a crime it was due to their reaction to their environment+genes. Ok, I'm gonna stop now since I can write for hours...[/quote:8164b]

I'm sorry spooge, but i'd have to disagree with just about everything you said. Being politically correct around a christian is almost non-existant...there's no real reason to. It's more the other way around-->Extremely strict haveing to change for the liberals (GENERALLY speaking. Don't take that as a dry statement). I do not understand why many people think having a bulletin board with some christian views on it is such a bad thing. We are not FORCING you too look at them. We do not go up to you and recite the Bible to your face and pull you back if you turn away. You do have a choice to look. The way i interpret your posts, it seems that you wish that religion should be abolished from society. I may be reading that wrong...if so, sorry. But, I don't think baning religious things is seperation of church and state. I just don't see how showing their love and passion for something can be so offending to others.

Again, much of my beliefs are raw opinion and interpretation. Some people just have opposite view-points. When it comes to religion being a factor in society, i think it's almost impossible to find "that common ground that everyone can agree on" because it is our duty as christians to spread the word of God. You can't tell people through the government that telling their religion to others is illegal.

I'm not sure what the answer is to this whole "seperation of church and state" thing...all I'm sure about is that it will take many more years for everything to be sorted out and acted upon.

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Coleman is Offline Major General Posts: 13,482 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: University Park, PA	02-27-2004, 06:47 PM [quote="Recycled Spooge":8164b][quote="Pvt.Pinhead":8164b][quote="Recycled Spooge":8164b]Anyway, that website seems to be made by some biblethumping religious activist group that want's to get Christ and the Bible back into the school system. I'm an atheist, and I honistly don't want to see religious garbage littered throughout my school. It's a seperation of chirch and state, it's as easy as that. It's the law. It prevents religious groups from controlling our country.[/quote:8164b] Y is it yalll hate God and Jesus so much?! I mean what has happened in your life to cause yall to not belive?!?! Most of you have obviously read the Bible and were brought up as Christians but what has truned you away?! Really?! I mean God has helped me in problems before, like sometimes when I have a bad day I say a simple prayer and often its answered with something else eventually during the day happens and cheers me up. But not just any prayer, you acually have to have faith and seriously know that there is a God and that your prayer isnt being ignored.[/quote:8164b] I have a problem with religious people in that I have to be politically correct(that's right Noctis) around them. I can't swear, have a beer with them, say a sex joke, show them a naked lady in a picture, or have an opinion on the church because they will go crazy on you. Second of all, I come from Poland, the birthplace of the Pope. I'm sick and tired of churches literally looting the Polish system and its people and I don't want it happening everywhere else. These aren't the reasons why I'm not a Christian though; these are the reasons why I don't want the church involved in state related activities. I'm a not a christian based on the fact that I believe that believing in something like a "sin" is totally absurd. I don't believe in moralty, I'm a nihilist. I believe there is an exception to every sin and there is justification to braking every law there ever was and ever will be in any system; wich brings up my other belief: chaos. I also believe that nobody is technically responsible for their own actions, but instead they are doomed to be controlled by their environnment and their hereditary traits; thus, I believe no punishment is justified for anything since if a person was breaking a crime it was due to their reaction to their environment+genes. Ok, I'm gonna stop now since I can write for hours...[/quote:8164b] I'm sorry spooge, but i'd have to disagree with just about everything you said. Being politically correct around a christian is almost non-existant...there's no real reason to. It's more the other way around-->Extremely strict haveing to change for the liberals (GENERALLY speaking. Don't take that as a dry statement). I do not understand why many people think having a bulletin board with some christian views on it is such a bad thing. We are not FORCING you too look at them. We do not go up to you and recite the Bible to your face and pull you back if you turn away. You do have a choice to look. The way i interpret your posts, it seems that you wish that religion should be abolished from society. I may be reading that wrong...if so, sorry. But, I don't think baning religious things is seperation of church and state. I just don't see how showing their love and passion for something can be so offending to others. Again, much of my beliefs are raw opinion and interpretation. Some people just have opposite view-points. When it comes to religion being a factor in society, i think it's almost impossible to find "that common ground that everyone can agree on" because it is our duty as christians to spread the word of God. You can't tell people through the government that telling their religion to others is illegal. I'm not sure what the answer is to this whole "seperation of church and state" thing...all I'm sure about is that it will take many more years for everything to be sorted out and acted upon.