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TGB! · **Re: : / -** 05-20-2004, 08:06 PM

[quote="mr.miyagi":d3f6e]Well tonight is not a good night coz im tired as fuck but during the whole thing he's constantly streaming off lists of gun laws, crime rates, various historical events and details all providing the relevant stuff to present his argument.[/quote:d3f6e]

This is no new news. America is a violent place, mistrusting place. People come here from all over the world and because there is no singular American "ideal" to live up to they fall back on their own teachings. Culture class. A black canadian would be viewed much more different than a white canadian.

[quote:d3f6e]Why does there have to be so many conpsiracies regarding his opinions on who is governing his country, there should always be people questioning what they're doing otherwise they'd get away with so much more stuff. He's trying to get people to see past all the governent's bullshit, he's trying to make a difference, why always be so angry and negative TGB?[/quote:d3f6e]

Theres a difference between "bringing up facts" and juxtaposing information next to each other to draw conclusions. Look at the line used to descirbe this movie:

[quote:d3f6e]Moore's controversial look at the 2001 terrorist attacks and President Bush's business involvement with Osama bin Laden's family.[/quote:d3f6e]

To the average viewer looking for ANYTHING to bash-Bush - "omg hes connected to Osama Bin Laden!!!"

Thats bullshit dangerous journalism right up there with the same propoganda used in WW2. The Bush family are oil men. Where does Oil come from? Saudi Arabia. Theres no way around that. At all. Terrorist come from Saudia A, along with the Bin Laden family. It's just something you have to deal with or guess what, the country is crippled. I wonder though how often Moore points out that Osama was disowned by his family YEARS ago, and has no contact with them whatsoever. I wonder if Moore points out the OTHER oil-men who have connections with Saudi oil-families and accusses them indirectly of supporting terrorism to earn a buck. I wonder if Moore lists the glaring number of Patriot Act abuses that have been used so far since obviously crippling civil liberties is part of Bush Co's plans (which is strange since Moores still alive, and talking about all these grievances - that secret police must be doing a shitty job).

People take this shit as fact. Sure theres truth to the things he says, but its all in how presents it, how its spliced together that forces folks to accept his shit as COMBINED fact. Thats the problem. People are instead of being told what to think by the Big Bad President, are being told what to think by a confirmed vicious anti-Bush-Man with an agenda.

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TGB! is Offline Command Sergeant Major Posts: 2,644 Join Date: Dec 2003	Re: : / - 05-20-2004, 08:06 PM [quote="mr.miyagi":d3f6e]Well tonight is not a good night coz im tired as fuck but during the whole thing he's constantly streaming off lists of gun laws, crime rates, various historical events and details all providing the relevant stuff to present his argument.[/quote:d3f6e] This is no new news. America is a violent place, mistrusting place. People come here from all over the world and because there is no singular American "ideal" to live up to they fall back on their own teachings. Culture class. A black canadian would be viewed much more different than a white canadian. [quote:d3f6e]Why does there have to be so many conpsiracies regarding his opinions on who is governing his country, there should always be people questioning what they're doing otherwise they'd get away with so much more stuff. He's trying to get people to see past all the governent's bullshit, he's trying to make a difference, why always be so angry and negative TGB?[/quote:d3f6e] Theres a difference between "bringing up facts" and juxtaposing information next to each other to draw conclusions. Look at the line used to descirbe this movie: [quote:d3f6e]Moore's controversial look at the 2001 terrorist attacks and President Bush's business involvement with Osama bin Laden's family.[/quote:d3f6e] To the average viewer looking for ANYTHING to bash-Bush - "omg hes connected to Osama Bin Laden!!!" Thats bullshit dangerous journalism right up there with the same propoganda used in WW2. The Bush family are oil men. Where does Oil come from? Saudi Arabia. Theres no way around that. At all. Terrorist come from Saudia A, along with the Bin Laden family. It's just something you have to deal with or guess what, the country is crippled. I wonder though how often Moore points out that Osama was disowned by his family YEARS ago, and has no contact with them whatsoever. I wonder if Moore points out the OTHER oil-men who have connections with Saudi oil-families and accusses them indirectly of supporting terrorism to earn a buck. I wonder if Moore lists the glaring number of Patriot Act abuses that have been used so far since obviously crippling civil liberties is part of Bush Co's plans (which is strange since Moores still alive, and talking about all these grievances - that secret police must be doing a shitty job). People take this shit as fact. Sure theres truth to the things he says, but its all in how presents it, how its spliced together that forces folks to accept his shit as COMBINED fact. Thats the problem. People are instead of being told what to think by the Big Bad President, are being told what to think by a confirmed vicious anti-Bush-Man with an agenda.