[Chappy]

what it comes down to is this: Kerry has nothing new to bring to the table besides seeking UN assistance, the same UN that has Quaddafi as the Chair of the Humans Rights Commission of the UN, you may have seen Quadaffi in such roles as Despot of Libya who has a dreadful track record with human rights. trust the UN to do anything of importance in this world? hardly.

I don't think any self-respecting individual can call themselves pro-war and this includes Bush. Let me give another definition since this thread is prone to giving them.

dé·tente ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-tänt, -tät)
n.
1. A relaxing or easing, as of tension between rivals.
2. A policy toward a rival nation or bloc characterized by increased diplomatic, commercial, and cultural contact and a desire to reduce tensions, as through negotiation or talks.

let me expand the definition:

detente as the liberal mind sees it: backing down against those who threaten the free world in order to gain a shaky sort of peace, have you hugged your favorite dictator today?

detente as fascism/communism/terrorism sees it: weakness which gives a free pass to do what you need to do to gain more power: ie stealing czechoslovakia in the case of hitler and we know how detente worked there/ 2 decades of touting communist ideals to the rest of the world while keeping the iron boot on the neck of the people they had just "saved" in the case of Soviet Russia/ blowing up a car in the middle of a crowd of people in the case of terrorism.

its a delusion to think that in this day and age, detente can work in bringing peace to this world but is still the main method the left in this country and countries all over the world still scream whenever a shot is fired by the US. war never solves anything except: ending slavery, destroying fascism, and defeating communism. I will vote for Bush