I did enough back in the Reagen thread I had the exact same debate about tax cuts as madmartagen is getting at with Colonel.
WHy did Bush oppose the 9/11 commisions at first ? He bummed out the one made by congress then opposed the public commision itself. The white house support of the commision as well has been lacking a lot, deadlones for documents to be submitted to the commision were late and osme never delivred at all. Not to mention the fact that they asked the 9/11 commision to Censor 28 pages of their report. "ever wonder what is on those pages". + as stated in the movie relating to the Bin Laden family, when you investigate any crime such as murder for say, you always question the family. They can give you insight into the crime and person themselves. Valuble information, lost. "Just not to make their lives less complicated, I don't give a fuck who you are 3k + people were just killed by one of your relatives, you better sit you ass in my country and answer some of my questions.
While the whole stole theory isn't exactly 100 % sound, it still has fantastic merit. The state is goverened by Jeff Bush, -The chairmen of Bush Campeign (Katherine Harris) was also the Vote counter for Florida and and hired a company to knock voters off the list that would most likely not vote for Bush (aka such as African Americans.) More backup and proof to this clause of African Americans getting knocked off the list was in joint session of congress and the Senate, African American Congress men and women both stood up to argue and call mis conduct in Florida. They needed backup from a senator but didn't get any. So they were told to shut up and sit down. One of the Congress Women who came up for this stated that in one of the sections alone 16000 blacks were disin franchised (lost right to vote) in Florida. Also numerous independent counts point out the Gore won the state.
http://democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5111
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2058631 (more mainstream news media for your liking)
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And the controversy has not been confined to the issue of recounts. Gore supporters say that in Palm Beach County many voters were confused by the design of the ballot. As a result, they may have mistakenly voted for Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan when they meant to vote for Gore. To support its position, the Gore campaign pointed to the results in Palm Beach County and similar counties in southeast Florida[/quote:60049]
+ doens't mattter if Clark takes the wrap, such high profile people being allowed to leave is to much of a fuck up. Ever hear the term used in the army, that a commander is responsible for his/her soldiers ? This in comparsion is the same thing. (Of course someone will take the fall or Bush him not taking the hit would mean almost certain thathe would lose this next election or have a huge blow to his poll numbers.
Lets see some examples of terrorists being harbored in Iraq after Spet 11th ? Thats right their were no links of AL queda to Iraq. If you use these weak statemetns to justify the invasion of Iraq and the killing of men women and children, then maybe you should review your own ethics. People do die you know from those bombs that hit citys. There was even use of Napalm in Iraq which of hit Women and Children. Seeing pictures of that kinda gets you to think...
And in closure, yes there is Liberal Bias in Moore's film's , because it is a liberal peice of media, but a conservative media peice would be bias as well, Moore admits his bias in public and states this is his opinion. In all honest respects i think Moore did this one better then the BFC because he tended to keep himself and his interviews out of the picture more often, instead he presented the viewer with a lot more cold harded facts.
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You only say this becaue of my Liberal views. More slander on behalf and based on the fact to you that all of Moore's documentarys are Bullshit and that right winged conservatism is always right. I've got news for you.. its not. Get over it. Neither are. It is a good mix of both that keeps things afloat (although i tend to take as Liberalism is more the answer in today's day and age.) We could also take to fact back in the reagen thread you did little as well to fight ay claims made by the article, you simply told me in the end to go write my own report and go make my own internet article. As many of conservatives tend to do here.
-In the end all it seems to me is that you don't see how valuble life is maybe one day if you ever are so unlucky to live threw the hell that is "war" then you might understand. Life is to valueble to be wasting on such falsities such as the War in Iraq. Now commence calling me a retard, it seems to be the main source of ammunition around here to me.
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