[quote:5aa35]Everyone always argues over the battery.
1. iPod- 12 hours
iRiver- 16 hours
whoever is going to listen to 12 hours of music in the first place is ridiculous. 16 hours is pure insanity. Im not even up for 12 hours, so how could i listen to 12 hours of music straight?[/quote:5aa35]
I agree, Apple has made improvements in their 4th gen iPods to include a comparable bettery life to iRiver, I wasnt talking about battery life per charge, I was talking about battery life in general. iPods are notorious for their batteries wearing out due to the physical type of battery it is NICD comapred to NIMH or something to that extent. IIRC, apple does now have a thing where you ship them your ipod with $100 and they will replace the battery.
[quote:5aa35]2. Charge time. the iPod takes about an hour to fully charge from 1/2-3/4 battery life. Before you hit the sack, just plug it in or put it on the dock, easy as that. When you wake up it will be ready for at least 3 days of casual listening.[/quote:5aa35]
Sure, nobody is arguing that, apple says from complete discharge, it takes 4 hours to fully charge, but that is easy to do when you sleep. Much like cornbread, there aint nothing wrong with that.
[quote:5aa35]3. iPod's control is amazing, i LOVE the new scroll wheel, and its very easy to use. im sure the iRiver is easy to use, but i dont want to use a bulky joystick to control it.[/quote:5aa35]
Some like it, some hate it. I found the wheel tough to use at first, but I'm sure with use, anybody would become good with it and love it. I personally like physically rotating wheel better than the touch sensitive wheel. At first, the iRivers joystick was tough, but like anything, it second nature now and IMO, is hardly bulky, but thats opinion.
[quote:5aa35]4. iRiver has a controller, who the hell needs a controller? my friend says he uses it all the time, but its not needed. the cable is long as hell, he had to put a rubber band to wrap up part of the cable, and put it in his backpack.[/quote:5aa35]
I agree, I odnt use my controller often, but it is nice to have when running so you can secure the heavy player away and be able to handle just the remote. Definitly not needed, but good on occasion.
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I never complained about iTunes. I have it, and like it to preview new music. I've only heard good things about it though.
[quote:5aa35]My point: Stop trying to be the overwhelming underdog, the iRiver is no where near superior to Apple's iPod. I would trust Apple over iRiver America[/quote:5aa35]
Overwhelming underdog? Where does this come from? How is the iRiver an underdog? It is better for some things (mainly audiophile stuff) whice the ipod is better for other things (functionality). As you may have noticed, I am really into music and audio and as an audiophile, I can appreciate iRivers features in this area, most people wouldnt, and therfor choose the iPod. And iRiver America is a great company, I dropped my first one from like 15 feet down a stairwell (annoy

and amazingly it still played fine but wouldnt write to the disc anymore. Called them up and got a free replacement within a week. And the iPod is also no where near superior to iRiver's iRiver. They are different players for different consumers and their features represent that.