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Von Paulus · 07-25-2001, 06:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Partisan:
First of all, Americans played the most active role in Pacific theatar, they entered European theater only when russian Red Army started liberating Europe from Germans. As you know,Interestedviewer, or not, Russians were first to enter Berlin. Thus to do that they had to cross all of Europe up to Germany, and by doing that they liberated those parts of Europe.

On the other hand, many historians argue that U.S. entered European front only to counter the raising power of Soviet Union. As you know, prior to WW2 U.S. was very isolationist and it saw wars in Europe as 'wars in Europe'. But after the WW1 U.S. invested large amounts of capital in Europe, plus ever growing economy of U.S. needed new markets, so leaving Europe to Russians wasn't an option.

So what did U.S. do in WW2? It won war in Pacific ( mind you, by using two A-bombs), liberated Italy and France.
What did Russians do? They fought about 250 German divisions, while Allies fought 56. They pushed Germans all the way back to Germany and by doing that liberated most of Europe. They inflicted most of the casulties on Germans and also inflicted even greater psychological damage, Aryan race was defeated by inferior Slavs. Thus for Germans, everything after the Kursk and Stalingrad was retreating and defeat.

U.S. did contributed to WW2 by putting itself on the Allied side and bringing huge economic and military help to Allied cause, but we can't say that they won the war.Nobody is saying that U.S. wasn't capabled of doing just that, but the truth is that Russia was one nation that sacrificed most and one nation that did most to defeat Germany. Maybe the situation would be different if U.S. was closer to Germany and Russia farther,but that isn't the case.

SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT U.S. WAS ONE NATION THAT WON THE WW2 ONLY BECAUSE YOU COME FROM U.S.. I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE YOUR NATION AND THINK BEST OF IT, BUT SIMPLY IN THIS CASE YOU WERE WRONG.
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I rest my (and Kaiser's) case...

Thanks Partisan... BAND OF BROTHERS IS GONNA ROCK!!!

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Von Paulus is Offline Senior Member Posts: 1,209 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Victoria, Australia	07-25-2001, 06:14 AM <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Partisan: First of all, Americans played the most active role in Pacific theatar, they entered European theater only when russian Red Army started liberating Europe from Germans. As you know,Interestedviewer, or not, Russians were first to enter Berlin. Thus to do that they had to cross all of Europe up to Germany, and by doing that they liberated those parts of Europe. On the other hand, many historians argue that U.S. entered European front only to counter the raising power of Soviet Union. As you know, prior to WW2 U.S. was very isolationist and it saw wars in Europe as 'wars in Europe'. But after the WW1 U.S. invested large amounts of capital in Europe, plus ever growing economy of U.S. needed new markets, so leaving Europe to Russians wasn't an option. So what did U.S. do in WW2? It won war in Pacific ( mind you, by using two A-bombs), liberated Italy and France. What did Russians do? They fought about 250 German divisions, while Allies fought 56. They pushed Germans all the way back to Germany and by doing that liberated most of Europe. They inflicted most of the casulties on Germans and also inflicted even greater psychological damage, Aryan race was defeated by inferior Slavs. Thus for Germans, everything after the Kursk and Stalingrad was retreating and defeat. U.S. did contributed to WW2 by putting itself on the Allied side and bringing huge economic and military help to Allied cause, but we can't say that they won the war.Nobody is saying that U.S. wasn't capabled of doing just that, but the truth is that Russia was one nation that sacrificed most and one nation that did most to defeat Germany. Maybe the situation would be different if U.S. was closer to Germany and Russia farther,but that isn't the case. SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT U.S. WAS ONE NATION THAT WON THE WW2 ONLY BECAUSE YOU COME FROM U.S.. I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE YOUR NATION AND THINK BEST OF IT, BUT SIMPLY IN THIS CASE YOU WERE WRONG. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I rest my (and Kaiser's) case... Thanks Partisan... BAND OF BROTHERS IS GONNA ROCK!!!