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Default 08-14-2002, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BallisticWookie
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Originally Posted by FWB
Why cant I do my shooting with non lethal/bullet using weapons ?? What would be the bloody point ?? "Non lethal" rounds are infact very capable of killing and maiming just as much as live rounds, so your point is moot.
Err mate, non-lethal means it can't kill, so by definition a non-lethal round wouldn't be able to take a life.

[quote:8b404]I know what guns do and I know clearly the difference between gaming and living.
Clearly not, as you keep refering to it.

[quote:8b404]You enjoy gaming ? You enjoy shooting pixels ? You enjoy the fact that you are shooting at representations of humans without the blood and gore and know that you are not actually killing anyone ?? Well guess what, WE ARE DOING EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING THING, ONLY I SHOOT REAL GUNS AT PAPER TARGETS AND YOU SHOOT PIXELS THAT LOOK LIKE HUMANS ON A COMPUTER. We are not hurting anyone and WOULD never hurt anyone. Do you comprehend ? Criminals with illegal guns should be the target of your dislike for guns, not people like me who follow and obey the law to the letter. [/quote:8b404]

Now, now. Calm down. No need to get uptight and swear.

The pixels are not the same as real life. It is completely different. Od I enjoy the blood? No not really, it makes no difference to my gameplay. In fact I don't play games that are particularly graphic, but that's another point, because even if I did it wouldn't be real. I would not be firing a real gun. I'll say it again, if you can't comprehend that then I can't help you.

I don't dislike you, although with the manner of debating your seem to be stepping into I may soon - what I dislike are guns. Its nothing against you. If no-one was getting shot then fine you can have your weapons, but the fact remains that people are dying from guns and a ban will reduce that.

[quote:8b404]You think mass killings wouldnt occur if guns were banned ?? How stupid are you to believe in something like that ?? Guns are readily available all over the place, banning them wont stop anything, dont you understand ?? Black market arms is BIG business, those arms dealers make shitloads and they sell to whomever has the cash. No law, no worries, it's all about money, you got the money, you got a gun, not a problem at all. [/quote:8b404]

Not at all. Yes a black market will operate, but you could arrest someone for simply possessing a gun. Gun crime has been reduced thanks to the ban we have.

[quote:8b404]Licenses should be made harder to get, psychological tests should be given, background checks, and whatever else is needed to make sure the licensee isnt going to go postal. If new technology that is being created is made public, guns will only be able to be fired with a special ring on the handlers finger. The gun and the ring work in conjunction, without the ring, the gun is useless. Firearms with this particular application built in would make them much more safer.[/quote:8b404]

I don't care about safety, I'd want a ban. Just get your thrills another way instead of shooting off a couple of rounds.

[quote:8b404]I never forced my opinion on you or any of you, I stated my feelings, and you stated yours. You think guns are dangerous by themselves, I dont.[/quote:8b404]

As I said, by you demanding the right to bear arms you place pressure on the rest of us who would like to live in a gun free society.

[quote:8b404]I like guns,[/quote:8b404]

lol. I know. Very scary.

[quote:8b404] you dont. Simple as that. If you dont like guns, I'm not going to change to suit your needs and neither is anyone else. The majority of people in my country want guns banned ?? Since when ?? The chance of their kids being blown away accidently would be reduced if the owner was smart enough to lock away his weapons, keep ammunition seperate from the guns and locked away in another compartment. [/quote:8b404]

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[quote:8b404]I'm sorry you feel as though you are being given a raw deal here, being made to live with gun owners and all. Seriously, theres nothing you can do about it, so stop your whining. We have put up with shit from people like you for years now, and we arent going to back down, simple as that. Get used to it. [/quote:8b404]

Hey, I don't live in the US, so at the end of the day I don't really care. I just can't find sympathy for a society that you advocate when someone gets blown away.

[quote:8b404]End of discussion.[/quote:8b404][/quote:8b404]

Ok, but if you don't mind I'll continue it with others here.
  
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