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Originally Posted by pest
FWB - try this link - http://www.ssaa.org.au/gunleg.html
From the short time I looked at these, I cannot tell how Australias gun control laws helped a bit. It looks like it had no effect at all, maybe even a negative effect. It just reinforces the old saying - If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. |
Not the case in Britain. You're also offering stats from a pro-gun site. Now, now, we all know that's not good.
However, what I can accept is that this comes down to a case by case issue. I'm not arguing that culture doesn't plays a huge role in this, it probably is the biggest, but sadly it isn't easy to overturn. Perhaps in the likes of Australia the criminal element has not been pushed off guns (this is one of the reasons the British police don't use such weapons, because they argue it causes criminals to resort to them too). You ban them, and perhaps, like here, given time, crooks will get used to not using them due to difficulty in obtaining and punishment for simply owning.
These things take time too. Let's wait some more years and see what happens. You can't expect change overnight.
[quote:ede7e]I'm sorry you dont want to hear the car vs gun arguement, but you are not interested in hearing the criminal vs non-criminal arguement, so i guess we are even. [/quote:ede7e]
It is because it is a pointless comparison. I'm still waiting for a response to my question on legalising fully armed tanks, land mines and anthrax.
[quote:ede7e]What about Switzerland where everyone is
required to have a gun in their house? Why are their crime rates so low?[/quote:ede7e]
You've been reading to many NRA publications. No such law exists. The militia keep their guns at home. Maybe that is what is confusing you.
But for your information, the country is now reconsidering its laws after the Friedrich Leibacher incident. EDIT: Here, dug up a link for you:
http://www.eda.admin.ch/washington_emb/ ... unown.html
There it states that not only do you need a permit to buy a gun but you also:
A person who requests such a permit must demonstrate that he needs to bear arms in public in order to protect himself, other persons or goods against specific risks.
What about Japan, which has one of the lowest gun related crime stats in the world and strict gun control?