RUDEDOG....i know your one of the big dogs around here and i dont want to ruffle any feathers but you said you can only put a limited number of objects in a map....i have a crap load of objects in my maps,,,and they play fine,,,heres a hint for ya...when you get too many objects in a map...at the bottom of your object list in the scr file,,,where the word ..end is...just go below that and keep goin,,,after you get the rest in just put end at the bottom like before,,,they will all show up in the map....check my server out,,,its wild,,,i have fire ,,tanks,,cars,,submarines..machine guns,,,sandbags,,the hardest map to mod is destroyed village,,but i finally broke that code also,,, its wild to say the least,,,stop by,,you might learn somethin...BUTCHES ULTRAMOD/NODIALUPS its on the gamespy list...look me up..BUTCH