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Default 07-26-2005, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by "Short Hand":672be
Umm......most gays do not "demands" the blessing from the catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Anglican, Presbiteryian, Methodist, or any other church. All the ask is for Marriage. Christians did not invent the whole idea of Marriage, it is a VERY ancient ceremony. Not something you can declare a monopoly on for hetrosexauls. I fail to see a single gay activists group ask for the Catholic church to perform their ceremony. rolleyes:


(Also note I was a "PRACTICING CATHOLIC" for over 15 years since I was born. I know what it means and how much bullshit it really is)
you don't work in a church and don't practice your "bullshit" faith anymore so you have no idea the crapstorm that is flying around most protestant (not so much catholic) congregations. YES I do, my family stills goes regularly, Not a single church has had a gay couple ask them to be married yet... because you don't then you don't see the gay activist groups that target protestants specifically in order to have gay marriage sanctioned by the church,Ya they will target it....but you can deny them that, it is your choice, I could care lees who you marry or not. the churches that do decide to marry Gay couples HAVe all the right to do this though, and will, AND they will call it marriage. Like it or lump it. got it ? not to mention more homosexuals in leadership positions (on par with the marriage issue). most denominations are having to play damage control in order that certain groups don't split their churches down the middle. I assure you that gay marriage will not be the end of your church. It will die on its own @ the rate it is at.

like i said, i could care less how you feel about religion, im not forcing mine down anyone's throat, so i feel its only fair that i not be called a "homophobe" because i dont agree.You assume I called you a homophobe ? Do you remember you're own username you can call practicing faith "bullshit" all you want...that doesn't change anything; what you do and what you believe in your life is your business...don't try and make it mine.I give God a lot more credit then any Christian does. (its cool to be gay but not cool to be a person of faith...wtf kind of logic is that? whoa whoa whoa... slow down big guy, Lets not try and reverse this here, You are NOT persecuted fror your faith, YOU are not in the crossfire. You live the easiest of all. Don't try and portray Conservative Christians as the ones suffering. liberals want all people to be equal, unless youre a conservative who believes in God...nice system you got there) Well why would it not ? Liberalism is the opposite. How can the 2 not clash. Should Liberals bow down right now and let America take a single direction ? Hell No. This is a democratic place where both clash FOR a reason. It is called democracy. Learn to live with it. why is it that when put up for votes, the majority of people in a majority of states vote against mandating gay marriage? because America is a bunch of gay bashing hatemongers? no, they just don't want the issue forced down their throats like it has been,Thats not the point, let the issue be decided by each state. The problem here is that George is trying to pass bills left right and center to "keep the family alive"and they don't think its a civil rights issue but a lifestyle choice that has been turned into a socio-political debate...until you can prove that homosexuality is absolutely hereditary, you have no scientific ground to stand on. Did you read either of the articles I gave you.......

and all of those articles you posted still cannot prove that there is a "gay gene" only predispositions of it... I was not tryign to proove a gay gene, but show genetics have a role in it. WHICH THEY DO In MANY CASESwho does those studies? all studies and cases are peformed by people, people have bias and reasons behind doing the studies...did you read the title of one of the articles......it has nothing to do with conservative thought vs liberal thought[b]then what is it ?

liberals want everyone to believe they fight for the good of mankind until someone doesnt buy into their crusade and then they are labeled "homophobes"[/quote:672be] rolleyes:

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