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Default 08-16-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilko
Look, i don't want to turn this into a "Foreign Leftie bashing the US" thread, but i think most people would agree that America is generally irresponsible and arrogant with the amount of power it wields.
Invading Iraq against the wishes of the United Nations and all but a few sycophantic nations (including, regrettably, Australia :/) is a textbook example of this.

Hey Trip, you reckon we could borrow Helen Clark next time the Yanks come knocking? Howard is useless when dealing with Bush stupid:
Hah, David Lange (Who just passed away a few days ago, R.I.P) is responsible for ruining our friendship with the Yanks back in the 80s, over the USS Buchanan - Which was a very smart move. Previously we were just as good allies as you guys are, during the ANZUS alliance, and we hadn't acted very indepently previously - But after we denied their possible nuclear ship their government hasn't wanted anything to do with us under our Labour government.

Helen Clark is holding the reigns though, god bless her. If we get a national government in power after the next election - We'll probably end up in the U.S's back pocket again. Being in a strong alliance with the U.S ain't terrible news (Potentially saved our ass having the big boys on our block during Vietnam, Korea, Malaya etc), but with them under their current government now it is, IMO.
  
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