Hang on to your hats, kids!
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Originally Posted by KTOG
As much as it goes against my view on human life. Let them do it. Israel is big kid they don't need Uncle USA to help them fight their own battles. If they lose, so be it. Its when countries that can't fend for themselves are attacked, the US should step in.
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IMO, I think the U.S.'s support of Israel is only exacerbating the problem in the Middle East. It's just viewed as yet more undue Western meddling in their affairs. I'm no Anti-Semite, but from a purely geographical point of view, cramming two countries in where there used to be one was never going to be a good idea.
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Originally Posted by Poseidon
I completely agree with wilco's comment
It angers me how our own prime minister is so close to the US/ G bush. It just feels like we have lost our independence as a country, that whatever the US does that we have to follow. I hated how the french and other countrys got bitched at because they followed their views when deciding not to help invade iraq. As soon as bush decides to invade iran, Blair will be like "of course i'll help you invade iran" "Who gives a shit about what the rest of our country thinks." Most of our country has forgiven our PM for his decision in following the US into war. If this happens again, I dont think he'll be forgiven as easilly.
The US is a very dangerous country, they should also have their nuclear weapon program removed as well as every other country's.
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I was actually quite disappointed with Blair's (not Britain's) decision to back the Invasion of Iraq. Being of Half-British blood, and having family over there and such, i take a bit of interest in your affairs.
The thing i dont get is, Australia was almost bound to go. With international diplomacy and the like being what it is, we're always going to be someone's bitch, (First England, now the US) otherwise we'll be belted with economic sanctions like New Zealand was after they didn't go with the US to Iraq (Correct me if I'm wrong Trippar).
Britain, on the other hand, could have sided with the European powers and not gone. I mean, surely you rely on fellow European nations for commerce more than the US. Furthermore, it would have strengthened ties with the continent. Sure, the US would have thrown a heap of "OMG WW2 YUO BASTAGES" crap your way, but you wouldn't be in this shitstorm in Iraq at the moment, which, irregardless of whatever anyone says, I believe to be the new Vietnam. rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by KTOG
Transcendentalism ... transcendentalism hake:
I just hate how people can't be accepting in what they have or the fact people are different. Name 1 war that was started for a good reason? (I'm not talking about relatition) I mean that one guy or country has to fuck it up for the rest of us, then a bunch of comformists follow him because of some bs called patriotism. The only good war is if aliens came to our Earth and started shooting lasers at us.
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The only valid war i can think of is probably the Second World War, because it was fought to stop someone forcefully taking over Europe, and then additionally to stop someone taking over Asia. I think it's valid because every other peaceful option was explored (especially by Chamberlain) before war was declared. This being said, if the abomination that was the First world war never happened, we wouldn't have had a disenfranchised Germany, which never would have given rise to Nazism, etc, etc. rolleyes:
I'm no pacifist, but i'm not warmonger either. I think that war will always be necessary while people try to impose their beliefs and control on others; but it should only be entered into when necessary, and not before.
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Originally Posted by rdeyes
yeah tony blair is falling right in line with the anti- terrorism fad . im glad hes kicking out the inmans that preach hate and that killing civilians is what allah would want . we have a nice place for all of them in cuba or some other country where torture is legal ...
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Me too!
Well, that's it. I imagine this will make me fairly unpopular with the Patriot crowd, but there you have it. The rants of a Citizen of a politically insignificant nation happy: