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Default 09-08-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by "TGB!":05856
[quote:05856]If you don't mind that, that's fine. I do.[/quote:05856]

Why?[/quote:05856]
It's an invasion of my personal privacy.

This is all speculation of course, since the card isn't in use yet, but will be shortly.

If I am to use the card to access normal things such as public transportation or to enter buildings, it's basically a tracking device. Everytime you swipe it, the agency in charge will know where I am.

I suppose you could argue that this already does happen. And it does. Any type of plastic does this. Credit card, debit cards all record transactions specific times and places. The card goes a step further by integrating survelance. In order for anyone to basically go anywhere, you're going to have to use it.

One other point we must consider is what is the purpose of the card. The card is being implemented as a step to protection from terrorism. It's not just the US. There was a big debate in Canada in 2003 about a national ID card. The UK and Australia will also be implementing national ID cards soon. So pretty much every country is going fourth with this in some capacity. But what does the program do? Does it actually stop terrorists from detonating bombs? I don't see how it does. If someone wants to blow something up, a card isn't going to stop them. The card however, impedes upon rights as a citizen of a free country. The citizens "suffer" while nothing changes about terrorism.

[quote:05856]I'm searching for a link I had. I'll post it when I find it.[/quote:05856]

The folks at GITMO are being held under the terms of the GENEVA CONDITION.
Sort of. I believe the US is not calling the people there POW's, thus they don't have access to certain rights granted by the geneva convention. It is convention, btw, not condition.

Of course, the people there are not under the patriot act. I would assume the patriot act applies to US citizens, and not those of other nationalities, especially those from astan and iraq.

I think the people there are in legal limbo, which allows the US to keep them there for an indefinite period of time. There are many people there who have been there since 9/11 without trial.

I recall now that there are some US citizens in guantanamo. Mostly those with dual citizenship to another arab country.
  
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